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Announcing real IEs for Browserling
- cleverjake 14y agoim rather disappointed they removed the option for older IEs from the free plan. That is what 95% of my work is.
- pkrumins 14y agoWe were using IETester for older IEs before this update...
- cleverjake 14y agoHey Peteris! I know, so perhaps I wasn't clear. I had mostly used browserling for quick checks in IE, rather than in depth debugging. I know that IE Tester wasn't 100% accurate with its rendering of bugs, but it was close enough to what I needed most of the time. I'm sure that getting native IE working was a huge effort and I applaud you for it, I just can't justify $20 a month for a feature I use as infrequently as I do.
- jf 14y agoWhat's keeping you from paying for Browserling?
- cleverjake 14y agoA combination of things. First - I have IEs in a virtual machine. The things I use browserling for are for either testing when im on someone else's computer, or when I am in a rush and want to get a do a quick 'it didn't break' sort of look. Second, this troubleshooting amounts to roughly 10 minutes a month on average. The lowest plan is $20 a month. At $2 a minute, id rather open up the VM. If I could have a prepaid option, I may be more likely. One thing I actually just discovered is the API access. If they could highlight this feature and give a few tutorials on how you could write tests for websites (specifically IE breakage), I would be much more likely to pay for access to these browsers.
- pkrumins 14y agoThanks for the feedback! We've been getting a lot of requests for prepaid plans, and we'll now go ahead and add them. I'll ping you on Twitter when we've added them! Also take a look at our other product - Testling: www.testling.com - It's automated browser testing. It won't detect visual bugs but it's good for automated js testing in all the browsers.
- cleverjake 14y agoyeah, thats the api access I mentioned. It looks phenomenal, but isn't 100% clear. A couple of practical examples would be suppppper helpful. thanks again man
- mappu 14y agoIE9 within the IE8 window chrome? Is that normal? I know you can load mshtml.dll or wherever Trident is kept nowadays into any IE shell, but the point of a service like this should be for accuracy to the original (there are a number of minor compatibility issues reported for tools which use similar workarounds, like IETester, Utilu, ...)
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoWhat IE8 window chrome?
- mappu 14y agoIt is indeed the IE9 window chrome, my mistake - those back/forward buttons threw me for a second.
- pkrumins 14y agoNo, we run Windows virtual machines that run IE6, IE7, IE8, and IE9. Then we take the desktop of the Windows virtual machine and stream it to your browser. What you get is using a browser from a browser! Take a look at the first demo video on www.stackvm.com to see how it works.
- unbeli 14y agoWanted to try, was bored to death by the queuing time. Annoying.
- drhowarddrfine 14y agoAnd anyone who wants to state that any version of IE is a good browser can only look to the need for such a tool, along with conditional comments and hundreds of web sites that do nothing but help developers find hacks and workarounds to make current, standard markup and code work in IE. IE...the world's worst browser.
- zackham 14y agoHey Peteris, I just want to let you know that what you're doing is awesome and I've been following it since the beginning. Browserling, from one dev to another, is a terrific implementation, and to speak to its benefits, I have used it a bunch of times because it is faster than booting up a VM for quick smoke tests. Everything has worked really well and I recommend it to everyone that mentions browser testing. I'd love to give you money - and it sounds like you'll be offering a prepaid plan - so I'll do that as soon as it's released. If there's a mailing list please add me to it, email in profile.
- pkrumins 14y agoHey! We do have paid plans already, and we have over 100 customers already! Go to https://browserling.com/ https://browserling.com/ and scroll down to "pricing". The cheapest developer plan is $20, which includes real IEs, ssh tunnels, and a developer testling plan (www.testling.com - our other product).
- LocalPCGuy 14y agoI find virtual machines with specific versions of IE installed on each to be sufficient. Why pay for something that is relatively easy to setup? Especially easy if you are running Windows 7 Pro with XP mode, but you can download the VHDs Microsoft provides for other versions/OSes.
- pavel_lishin 14y agoI don't think Browserlink works very well if you have flashblock installed, and it's very hard to tell (note the telltale F in the upper-right: http://i.imgur.com/Sc3Kq.png http://i.imgur.com/Sc3Kq.png)
- pkrumins 14y agoWe don't use flash anywhere on the site. Surprising that you have the "F" in the upper-right. I think it's coming from socket.io's flash-sockets but we don't use those.
- zalew 14y agowaited in the queue, went for a coffee, came back, 'your browsing time is up', and back in the queue again...