I remember watching a conference video featuring Moxie - he was the golden child, and there was an older guy saying "We've been doing cryptography for so long..

I remember watching a conference video featuring Moxie - he was the golden child, and there was an older guy saying "We've been doing cryptography for so long... how do we get paid?" Sounded very much like a inner circle backroom deal kind of moment. Guess they figured it out!