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It would be nice to be told roughly what the process is before having to 'sign up'.

by outop 2y ago

dang 2y ago
You're already signed up, because you can use your HN account to log in. (All YC accounts are HN accounts and vice versa.) The process is that you fill out a form and make a 1 minute video* and click 'submit'. (* I know...I hated the video thing too... but it gives a sense of what someone is like that doesn't come through in text, and you just talk for a minute about what you care about. nothing fancy.) (edit: also, if you're the type of founder that my post is trying to reach - the video is very much in your interest. Other people can see potential in you that you don't see in yourself, even after just a minute. Especially because the people reviewing applications have massive amounts of experience with this.)
- ssroovy 2y ago
  Video is fine(it's just a minute), but why LinkedIn URL is required(not optional)? LinkedIn is about education, career, and networking. I am under average in all of them, so I'm not registered. This is the only thing which holding me back from applying. Otherwise, I work full-time on kick-ass product for months with 1000+ commits.
  - dang 2y ago
    Yeah I can't believe that either. Can you imagine pg being on LinkedIn? Never in a million years. I'm trying to find out who to talk to about this.
  - OJFord 2y ago
    Just enter some kind of dummy text/fake profile URL that indicates you don't have an account? I can't imagine it's seriously a hard requirement; you creating a basically empty account now just to be able to provide a real URL isn't better than 'N/A'.
  - snowmaker 2y ago
    Sorry about that! Based on this thread, we removed the requirement for a LinkedIn profile.
    - ssroovy 2y ago
      Thanks, a lot. I'm applying.
    - deobald 2y ago
      Thanks for this! I'd like to drop a note of explanation here, for future readers: Yes, anyone can "just create a LinkedIn account." However, quite a few people across the globe are trying to decrease their online surface area. While many of us (myself included) just have a password manager filled with thousands of entries and 32-character passwords, some folks are not comfortable living that way. I also find myself unsubscribing from or filtering emails from these services at least once a day, so I can appreciate why many folks are increasingly trying to simplify their lives by eliminating SaaS logins. Even without creating a LinkedIn account, one could fill in a dummy URL to satisfy the JavaScript validation and submit the application. However, we chose not to do this because of how the YC application itself is structured. The submission requirements are intentionally strict (60 second founder video, <3mins demo, very specific questions, etc.) and subverting the application process feels antithetical. Having the option to opt out of the LinkedIn field is greatly appreciated.
- kxrm 2y ago
  I just went through the application because of your post. I don't have a lot to bring to the table so hopes are not high but what's the worst that could happen? They say no. Anyway, I got hung up on the video, I definitely have no idea what to say, so I saved the application for later and will come back to it. Perhaps my plan for the video should be to read what I wrote in the plan fire it off and forget I did this. :) But yea, as someone who has issues with presenting to others visually in this way, the video requirement is really hard. I'll do it because this is all to see what happens, but definitely not confident on that part of things.
  - dang 2y ago
    I'm definitely on the side of everyone who hates the video thing but all you have to do is talk for a minute about what you're working on. You're not being evaluated on any of the things that "video" normally implies—quite the opposite. For example coming across as an "influencer" would be a bad idea, and coming across as an awkward introvert probably helps you and certainly won't hurt. But don't try to "come across" in any way at all—just talk about what you're working on or interested in. For people who feel the way that you and I both do, whoever watches your video as part of reviewing your YC application is probably going to see you an order of magnitude more positively than you see yourself. Self-evaluation of video is painful.
- mlhpdx 2y ago
  Serious question: Does YC recognize and remediate the unconscious bias that comes with looking at said videos? It seems like it may be comforting, but potentially counter-productive.
  - kxrm 2y ago
    So back in the day when Skype was still new tech and I worked for small remote company we did interviews over the phone. It was absolutely wonderful for eliminating bias. We had a very diverse cross section of employees from many backgrounds doing very good work for us. I kind of miss those days now that Zoom is everywhere and it's an expectation that you present yourself on video for others. I get why a sales job might want to make sure you keep up appearances but just writing code, I really hate turning on video. No one I know wants to acknowledge that we aren't solving bias with video though. I am glad you brought this up though. I believe it's true.

It would be nice to be told roughly what the process is before having to 'sign up'.

by outop 2y ago

It would be nice to be told roughly what the process is before having to 'sign up'.

dang 2y ago

You're already signed up, because you can use your HN account to log in. (All YC accounts are HN accounts and vice versa.) The process is that you fill out a form and make a 1 minute video* and click 'submit'. (* I know...I hated the video thing too... but it gives a sense of what someone is like that doesn't come through in text, and you just talk for a minute about what you care about. nothing fancy.) (edit: also, if you're the type of founder that my post is trying to reach - the video is very much in your interest. Other people can see potential in you that you don't see in yourself, even after just a minute. Especially because the people reviewing applications have massive amounts of experience with this.)

ssroovy 2y ago
Video is fine(it's just a minute), but why LinkedIn URL is required(not optional)? LinkedIn is about education, career, and networking. I am under average in all of them, so I'm not registered. This is the only thing which holding me back from applying. Otherwise, I work full-time on kick-ass product for months with 1000+ commits.
- dang 2y ago
  Yeah I can't believe that either. Can you imagine pg being on LinkedIn? Never in a million years. I'm trying to find out who to talk to about this.
- OJFord 2y ago
  Just enter some kind of dummy text/fake profile URL that indicates you don't have an account? I can't imagine it's seriously a hard requirement; you creating a basically empty account now just to be able to provide a real URL isn't better than 'N/A'.
- snowmaker 2y ago
  Sorry about that! Based on this thread, we removed the requirement for a LinkedIn profile.
  - ssroovy 2y ago
    Thanks, a lot. I'm applying.
  - deobald 2y ago
    Thanks for this! I'd like to drop a note of explanation here, for future readers: Yes, anyone can "just create a LinkedIn account." However, quite a few people across the globe are trying to decrease their online surface area. While many of us (myself included) just have a password manager filled with thousands of entries and 32-character passwords, some folks are not comfortable living that way. I also find myself unsubscribing from or filtering emails from these services at least once a day, so I can appreciate why many folks are increasingly trying to simplify their lives by eliminating SaaS logins. Even without creating a LinkedIn account, one could fill in a dummy URL to satisfy the JavaScript validation and submit the application. However, we chose not to do this because of how the YC application itself is structured. The submission requirements are intentionally strict (60 second founder video, <3mins demo, very specific questions, etc.) and subverting the application process feels antithetical. Having the option to opt out of the LinkedIn field is greatly appreciated.
kxrm 2y ago
I just went through the application because of your post. I don't have a lot to bring to the table so hopes are not high but what's the worst that could happen? They say no. Anyway, I got hung up on the video, I definitely have no idea what to say, so I saved the application for later and will come back to it. Perhaps my plan for the video should be to read what I wrote in the plan fire it off and forget I did this. :) But yea, as someone who has issues with presenting to others visually in this way, the video requirement is really hard. I'll do it because this is all to see what happens, but definitely not confident on that part of things.
- dang 2y ago
  I'm definitely on the side of everyone who hates the video thing but all you have to do is talk for a minute about what you're working on. You're not being evaluated on any of the things that "video" normally implies—quite the opposite. For example coming across as an "influencer" would be a bad idea, and coming across as an awkward introvert probably helps you and certainly won't hurt. But don't try to "come across" in any way at all—just talk about what you're working on or interested in. For people who feel the way that you and I both do, whoever watches your video as part of reviewing your YC application is probably going to see you an order of magnitude more positively than you see yourself. Self-evaluation of video is painful.
mlhpdx 2y ago
Serious question: Does YC recognize and remediate the unconscious bias that comes with looking at said videos? It seems like it may be comforting, but potentially counter-productive.
- kxrm 2y ago
  So back in the day when Skype was still new tech and I worked for small remote company we did interviews over the phone. It was absolutely wonderful for eliminating bias. We had a very diverse cross section of employees from many backgrounds doing very good work for us. I kind of miss those days now that Zoom is everywhere and it's an expectation that you present yourself on video for others. I get why a sales job might want to make sure you keep up appearances but just writing code, I really hate turning on video. No one I know wants to acknowledge that we aren't solving bias with video though. I am glad you brought this up though. I believe it's true.