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AI safety is moralism of the boring kind, not even some new moral philosophy. AFAIK Dennett did not hold strong moral positions , let alone moralist, so i feel
by seydor 3y ago
AI safety is moralism of the boring kind, not even some new moral philosophy. AFAIK Dennett did not hold strong moral positions , let alone moralist, so i feel he was orthogonal to it
- xpe 3y agoWhat moralism is interesting to you?
- dudeinjapan 3y agoAnything to do with trains and levers.
- BlueTemplar 3y agoWhat is it like to be a trolley ? (I had misremembered the author of that original quote, but then : > Daniel Dennett, while sharply disagreeing on some points, acknowledged Nagel's paper ["What Is It Like to Be a Bat?"] as "the most widely cited and influential thought experiment about consciousness.")
- seydor 3y agoNone
- xpe 3y agowhat do you mean by moralism? I doubt that you reject the rationality of caring about behavior. Fair? There are philosophers who talk about morality from the point of view of rationality without making wild* claims about truth. * you have to start with some assumptions, but some are less attractive than others
- seydor 3y agomoralism is not some specific set of morals, but the idea that they should be imposed via whatever means
- xpe 3y agoAccording to a common definition, moralism involves judgment, but not necessarily imposition. From Wikipedia: > The term has been used in a pejorative sense to describe the attitude of "being overly concerned with making moral judgments or being illiberal in the judgments one makes". There is also the 19th century Moralism movement/philosophy, which may have inspired the more general sense of the word, but I’m not sure. I think we should all step back and question whether we all even mean the same thing by the word “imposition”. When I think about imposition, I can see how people could interpret that to mean a wide range of things, including social pressure, religious rules, as well as the force of law. This is why (above) I interpret moralism (the general term) as a kind of judgment, but not necessarily an imposition of rules or punishments.
- tim333 3y ago>AI safety is moralism of the boring kind It's not all boring - it makes for some great movies. Terminator 2, The Matrix etc. It's also moving to practical engineering questions like how can we have AI controlled drones kill invading Russians but ensure they won't turn on us later, more than philosophical waffle.