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The question was would you feel "intimidated and threatened", not whether it's a problem or appropriate for the workplace.

lp0_on_fire 3y ago
By definition something that is intimidating or threatening is inappropriate for the workplace so I don't see the point you're trying to make.
- yencabulator 3y ago
  Just because it might be inappropriate for the workplace does not make it intimidating or threatening. Grandparent was asking what was the intimidating and threatening part.
  - lp0_on_fire 3y ago
    How do you think an Israeli who lost a relative when Hamas murdered hundreds of innocent civilians would feel about this little stunt in the workplace? Maybe a relative of one of the ones whose bodies were mutilated and paraded around for all to see? You don't think that might touch a nerve? Or on the opposite shoe: What if it were a bunch of Israeli employees who occupied that office demanding that google do MORE to support the war effort? Leave your politics out of the workplace. This is not rocket science and the phenomenon we have nowadays where _everything_ must be co-opted for the political cause-du-jour is outright exhausting, even to people who support it.
    - yencabulator 3y ago
      Once again, the criteria was "intimidating and threatening". You and others keep dancing around that seemingly baseless statement.
      - lp0_on_fire 3y ago
        Protesting in favor/ against sensitive subjects and causing a ruckus that results in _law enforcement getting involved_ can be “intimidating and threatening” when it _happens at your workplace_. I feel you’re being deliberately obtuse on this.
        yencabulator 3y ago
        As far as I read, law enforcement was there just to remove the people from the premises, not to stop violent behavior. You do realize many protests involve just sitting in place until police drags you away, and that that's intentional?
        lp0_on_fire 3y ago
        You realize that breaking into a private office, being asked, and then told, to leave automatically escalates a situation? Obviously they want to get arrested because they’re out for attention. You realize there are many examples of these sit-ins lately end with protesters gluing themselves to the floor/road or damaging property, maybe toss some paint on priceless art when it happens to a museum? Or relieving themselves in place so that some poor underpaid janitor has to clean up? After the protesters smile for the camera of course. I find that pretty intimidating because if the spoiled rich brats looking for social media points are willing to do that to themselves what else are they willing to do? Is it totally unreasonable to assume one could be stupid and end up hitting someone? In the United State where gun crime is unfortunately high? The likelihood of this particular incident developing into that was probably pretty low but the point is that other people should not have to make that kind of mental calculus at work. They have a right not to be subjected to whatever hot button political cause is in vogue when they’re trying to go to work so they can feed themselves and their family. If you want to protest do it on your own time on public property or your own. Don’t expect sympathy from those of us that don’t want to hear it at our place of business.
        yencabulator 3y ago

lp0_on_fire 3y ago

By definition something that is intimidating or threatening is inappropriate for the workplace so I don't see the point you're trying to make.

yencabulator 3y ago
Just because it might be inappropriate for the workplace does not make it intimidating or threatening. Grandparent was asking what was the intimidating and threatening part.
- lp0_on_fire 3y ago
  How do you think an Israeli who lost a relative when Hamas murdered hundreds of innocent civilians would feel about this little stunt in the workplace? Maybe a relative of one of the ones whose bodies were mutilated and paraded around for all to see? You don't think that might touch a nerve? Or on the opposite shoe: What if it were a bunch of Israeli employees who occupied that office demanding that google do MORE to support the war effort? Leave your politics out of the workplace. This is not rocket science and the phenomenon we have nowadays where _everything_ must be co-opted for the political cause-du-jour is outright exhausting, even to people who support it.
  - yencabulator 3y ago
    Once again, the criteria was "intimidating and threatening". You and others keep dancing around that seemingly baseless statement.
    - lp0_on_fire 3y ago
      Protesting in favor/ against sensitive subjects and causing a ruckus that results in _law enforcement getting involved_ can be “intimidating and threatening” when it _happens at your workplace_. I feel you’re being deliberately obtuse on this.
      - yencabulator 3y ago
        As far as I read, law enforcement was there just to remove the people from the premises, not to stop violent behavior. You do realize many protests involve just sitting in place until police drags you away, and that that's intentional?
        lp0_on_fire 3y ago
        You realize that breaking into a private office, being asked, and then told, to leave automatically escalates a situation? Obviously they want to get arrested because they’re out for attention. You realize there are many examples of these sit-ins lately end with protesters gluing themselves to the floor/road or damaging property, maybe toss some paint on priceless art when it happens to a museum? Or relieving themselves in place so that some poor underpaid janitor has to clean up? After the protesters smile for the camera of course. I find that pretty intimidating because if the spoiled rich brats looking for social media points are willing to do that to themselves what else are they willing to do? Is it totally unreasonable to assume one could be stupid and end up hitting someone? In the United State where gun crime is unfortunately high? The likelihood of this particular incident developing into that was probably pretty low but the point is that other people should not have to make that kind of mental calculus at work. They have a right not to be subjected to whatever hot button political cause is in vogue when they’re trying to go to work so they can feed themselves and their family. If you want to protest do it on your own time on public property or your own. Don’t expect sympathy from those of us that don’t want to hear it at our place of business.
        yencabulator 3y ago