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The context here is fructose, you're mixing it up with glucose. Both technically sugars, but very different effects. People have had access to lactose for a lo

The context here is fructose, you're mixing it up with glucose. Both technically sugars, but very different effects. People have had access to lactose for a long time too, but fructose is the issue.

watwut 3y ago
The context here is "fat vs sugar". To which reaction was "they were eating fruits not sugar". The context here is that major food group that was pretty significant source of calories - complex carbohydrates was skipped creating dichotomy between sugar and fat.
- adrian_b 3y ago
  Fresh fruits have only a low content of sugar. The recommendations that I have seen are that up to around 50 g of sugar per day (25 g of fructose) should be fine. Most fresh fruits have about 10% of sugar, so you need to eat more than a pound or a half of kg to reach levels of sugar intake that could be unhealthy. Only a few fruits have more sugar, above 15%, e.g. grapes, fresh figs or fresh dates. Even with those you must eat an amount over what would satiate most people, in order to get too much sugar. On the other hand, if you eat one chocolate (many of which contain 60% or more sugar) or a few candies you are likely to have already exceeded an acceptable daily intake.
  - watwut 3y ago
    Like, who cares. My argument was about potatoes, rice, bread, ... Sure if you eat full chocolate every day and are nor teenager or weightlifter you probably eat too much of it. And still, that doew not mean you nmed to cut complex carbohydrates and go keto ... especially if argument is how people 300 years ago eate. It was not keto.
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  Again, sugar is a shorthand for fructose. Whenever this comes up someone muddies the water by saying that glucose is a sugar too but that isn't what is being talked about.
  - watwut 3y ago
    I never seen sugar used as shorthand for fructose. It would mean majority of candies dont have sugar in them - they dont have simple fructos And it is not used that way by people who push keto and low carbohydrates diets on HN. And again, it renders fat vs sugar dichotomy meaningless.
    - CyberDildonics 3y ago
      I don't know what you mean by 'simple fructose'. You're the only one who has said that. Candy usually has high fructose corn syrup which is about 60% fructose and 40% sucrose.

The context here is fructose, you're mixing it up with glucose. Both technically sugars, but very different effects. People have had access to lactose for a long time too, but fructose is the issue.

watwut 3y ago

The context here is "fat vs sugar". To which reaction was "they were eating fruits not sugar". The context here is that major food group that was pretty significant source of calories - complex carbohydrates was skipped creating dichotomy between sugar and fat.

adrian_b 3y ago
Fresh fruits have only a low content of sugar. The recommendations that I have seen are that up to around 50 g of sugar per day (25 g of fructose) should be fine. Most fresh fruits have about 10% of sugar, so you need to eat more than a pound or a half of kg to reach levels of sugar intake that could be unhealthy. Only a few fruits have more sugar, above 15%, e.g. grapes, fresh figs or fresh dates. Even with those you must eat an amount over what would satiate most people, in order to get too much sugar. On the other hand, if you eat one chocolate (many of which contain 60% or more sugar) or a few candies you are likely to have already exceeded an acceptable daily intake.
- watwut 3y ago
  Like, who cares. My argument was about potatoes, rice, bread, ... Sure if you eat full chocolate every day and are nor teenager or weightlifter you probably eat too much of it. And still, that doew not mean you nmed to cut complex carbohydrates and go keto ... especially if argument is how people 300 years ago eate. It was not keto.
CyberDildonics 3y ago
Again, sugar is a shorthand for fructose. Whenever this comes up someone muddies the water by saying that glucose is a sugar too but that isn't what is being talked about.
- watwut 3y ago
  I never seen sugar used as shorthand for fructose. It would mean majority of candies dont have sugar in them - they dont have simple fructos And it is not used that way by people who push keto and low carbohydrates diets on HN. And again, it renders fat vs sugar dichotomy meaningless.
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    I don't know what you mean by 'simple fructose'. You're the only one who has said that. Candy usually has high fructose corn syrup which is about 60% fructose and 40% sucrose.