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> Do you really think this is what happens on job sites? Does this match your personal experience? Yes, it does. I’m a construction project manager, I’m not ha

> Do you really think this is what happens on job sites? Does this match your personal experience? Yes, it does. I’m a construction project manager, I’m not having my crew do any work that isn’t represented in the current revision of the plans and specs without approval because that’s the only way you get paid for the extras. Also if it’s an unapproved and unwanted change, you have to pay to remove it. Anyone managing a project who cares about managing their risk is going to submit RFIs and RFCs for every change. It’s possible that the (tiny and insignificant) residential market is different, but that’s how commercial and industrial construction works. It’s possible some tiny and insignificant changes like moving a receptacle or data opening a couple inches aren’t properly documented on the as-builts, but major changes almost always are. > Because my initial reaction was to laugh to myself at how rarely contractors, subcontractors, and crewmembers would actually engage a process like the one you are describing here. The firms you hire to work on your house aren’t representative of the firms who manage or work on commercial and industrial projects.

DiggyJohnson 2y ago
> It’s possible some tiny and insignificant changes like moving a receptacle or data opening a couple inches aren’t properly documented on the as-builts, but major changes almost always are. Based on these responses I should have been more clear. These small and inconsequential things are what I'm referring to. Yes, the projects I'm familiar with track the medium and big stuff, and most of the small stuff.
- abduhl 2y ago
  I have seen multiple thousands of dollars of precast concrete get junked because an edge was less than half an inch out of tolerance. Multiple times. I have myself rejected multiple thousands of dollars of rebar because the hook length was short by less than an inch. Nothing that is shown in the plans or specs is inconsequential and payment doesn’t occur absent an approved variance.
  - DiggyJohnson 2y ago
    All I’m saying is that out of spec work does happen. I’m not defending it.
    - abduhl 2y ago
      and all I'm saying is that it doesn't make it on to the job in the first place usually and it certainly doesn't make it out to the public like with the cybertruck pedal

DiggyJohnson 2y ago

> It’s possible some tiny and insignificant changes like moving a receptacle or data opening a couple inches aren’t properly documented on the as-builts, but major changes almost always are. Based on these responses I should have been more clear. These small and inconsequential things are what I'm referring to. Yes, the projects I'm familiar with track the medium and big stuff, and most of the small stuff.

abduhl 2y ago
I have seen multiple thousands of dollars of precast concrete get junked because an edge was less than half an inch out of tolerance. Multiple times. I have myself rejected multiple thousands of dollars of rebar because the hook length was short by less than an inch. Nothing that is shown in the plans or specs is inconsequential and payment doesn’t occur absent an approved variance.
- DiggyJohnson 2y ago
  All I’m saying is that out of spec work does happen. I’m not defending it.
  - abduhl 2y ago
    and all I'm saying is that it doesn't make it on to the job in the first place usually and it certainly doesn't make it out to the public like with the cybertruck pedal