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You're implying Palestine only exists online?

by uoaei 3y ago

Workaccount2 3y ago
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- klyrs 3y ago
  > I'm implying that the presentation of "facts" that would get a bunch of rainbow flag waving leftists to support a group of right wing ultra conservative theists only exists online. Leftists are still supporting the Israeli government? News to me. And funny thing about your reference to rainbow flags. We queers were scapegoated in the Holocaust too. Only, the international community didn't think we deserved our own country, or much of any right to life, for that matter. If only... it were possible to believe in the rights of people, without giving full-throated support for the government they live under. I believe that Palestinians, Israelis, Jews, and Muslims all have a right to life and peace. That just ain't the same as supporting Netanyahu's government, nor Hamas. But speaking of supporting Hamas! Netanyahu has been supporting Hamas for decades now. So why are people so critical of the left? Netanyahu is one of yours! And he's got a helluva lot more influence than some protesters in a corporate office.
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
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    - klyrs 3y ago
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        klyrs 3y ago
        You're the one who brought queers into the conversation with your "rainbow flag waving" swipe. If you don't wanna talk to dogs, don't blow the dogwhistle. > Palestine is in a position where they cannot win having wasted 75 years throwing rocks at Israel Israel paid for those rocks. Why?
- hannofcart 3y ago
  Thank God for us "blue haired liberals" who fight for the basic human rights of even those people who hold views and beliefs that we find deplorable. Rest assured that once the 2000lb bombs stop falling on innocent civilians, and once they pick up whatever is left of their lives, we'll be sure to promptly censure them for their homophobic views.
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
    If you cared about Palestinians, you would be fighting for Hamas to issue uniforms, so that civilians and soldiers could be clearly recognized. What did Ukraine do when Russian invaded? Pulled out civilians and issued uniforms to men. What did Hamas do? Force civilians to stay in their homes, use those homes as operations points, give guns but no uniforms to men.
    - klyrs 3y ago
      > you would be fighting for Hamas to issue uniforms How exactly does one fight for that? These googlers saw an opportunity -- their employer took a contract from a belligerent in the conflict -- and they acted on that opportunity to protest. What opportunity do any of us have to influence Hamas's sartorial choices?
      - Workaccount2 3y ago
        None, because if Hamas issued uniforms they would lose the war. Their main source of support is making sure civilians die. They do the opposite of what every non-delusional theocratic hellhole does, and purposely mix their civilians and military.
        klyrs 3y ago
        >>> you would be fighting for Hamas to issue uniforms >> How exactly does one fight for that? > [you can't] Good to see you acknowledge that your original appeal was not in good faith.

You're implying Palestine only exists online?

by uoaei 3y ago

You're implying Palestine only exists online?

Workaccount2 3y ago

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klyrs 3y ago
> I'm implying that the presentation of "facts" that would get a bunch of rainbow flag waving leftists to support a group of right wing ultra conservative theists only exists online. Leftists are still supporting the Israeli government? News to me. And funny thing about your reference to rainbow flags. We queers were scapegoated in the Holocaust too. Only, the international community didn't think we deserved our own country, or much of any right to life, for that matter. If only... it were possible to believe in the rights of people, without giving full-throated support for the government they live under. I believe that Palestinians, Israelis, Jews, and Muslims all have a right to life and peace. That just ain't the same as supporting Netanyahu's government, nor Hamas. But speaking of supporting Hamas! Netanyahu has been supporting Hamas for decades now. So why are people so critical of the left? Netanyahu is one of yours! And he's got a helluva lot more influence than some protesters in a corporate office.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
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  - klyrs 3y ago
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    - Workaccount2 3y ago
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      - klyrs 3y ago
        You're the one who brought queers into the conversation with your "rainbow flag waving" swipe. If you don't wanna talk to dogs, don't blow the dogwhistle. > Palestine is in a position where they cannot win having wasted 75 years throwing rocks at Israel Israel paid for those rocks. Why?
hannofcart 3y ago
Thank God for us "blue haired liberals" who fight for the basic human rights of even those people who hold views and beliefs that we find deplorable. Rest assured that once the 2000lb bombs stop falling on innocent civilians, and once they pick up whatever is left of their lives, we'll be sure to promptly censure them for their homophobic views.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  If you cared about Palestinians, you would be fighting for Hamas to issue uniforms, so that civilians and soldiers could be clearly recognized. What did Ukraine do when Russian invaded? Pulled out civilians and issued uniforms to men. What did Hamas do? Force civilians to stay in their homes, use those homes as operations points, give guns but no uniforms to men.
  - klyrs 3y ago
    > you would be fighting for Hamas to issue uniforms How exactly does one fight for that? These googlers saw an opportunity -- their employer took a contract from a belligerent in the conflict -- and they acted on that opportunity to protest. What opportunity do any of us have to influence Hamas's sartorial choices?
    - Workaccount2 3y ago
      None, because if Hamas issued uniforms they would lose the war. Their main source of support is making sure civilians die. They do the opposite of what every non-delusional theocratic hellhole does, and purposely mix their civilians and military.
      - klyrs 3y ago
        >>> you would be fighting for Hamas to issue uniforms >> How exactly does one fight for that? > [you can't] Good to see you acknowledge that your original appeal was not in good faith.