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See https://duckduckgo.com/aichat/privacy-terms https://duckduckgo.com/aichat/privacy-terms "We do not save or store your Prompts or Outputs. Additionally, al
by yegg 2y ago
See https://duckduckgo.com/aichat/privacy-terms https://duckduckgo.com/aichat/privacy-terms
"We do not save or store your Prompts or Outputs.
Additionally, all metadata that contains personal information (for example, your IP address) is obfuscated from underlying model providers (for example, OpenAI, Anthropic).
If you submit personal information in your Prompts, it may be reproduced in the Outputs, but no one can tell whether it was you personally submitting the Prompts or someone else.
We have agreements with model providers to further protect your privacy.
As noted above, we call model providers on your behalf so your personal information (for example, IP address) is not exposed to them. In addition, we have agreements in place with all model providers that further limit how they can use data from these anonymous requests that includes not using Prompts and Outputs to develop or improve their models as well as deleting all information received within 30 days."
- bevekspldnw 2y agoThat’s a pretty disingenuous framing. Obviously the content of the communication- what you ask the chatbot - can totally be personally identifiable, and is stored. You aren’t providing communications content privacy, you’re providing a meta data proxy which is not remotely the same.
- lxgr 2y agoTrue, but it's also the best possible thing until they can run an LLM in your browser (or maybe we figure out how to do homomorphic encryption of neural networks). What else should they call it? I suppose "anonymous" could work (i.e. they only know about you what you tell them).
- bevekspldnw 2y agoThey could literally run Mixtral or Llama on their own machines and have total control. This is basically a ChatGPT VPN.
- lxgr 2y agoWhat would make their machines more trustworthy than OpenAI's or Anthropic's?
- dumbfounder 2y agoThem saying they will not use our data or allow 3rd parties to use our data. This effort is weak sauce.
- bevekspldnw 2y agoCorrect, that would be full communications content protection. This is not that, this is a pretty half assed product with a misleading set of promises. Either use one of the many open models that beat GPT-3.5 and you have a real, and better!, product. I literally have no idea what the point of this is, or why not make the actual step of rolling out a real private LLM. It’s literally inferior to what Mixtral provides right now, under Apache license.
- seplox 2y agoOr in other words: If you submit personal information in your Prompts, it may be reproduced in the Outputs, but no one can tell whether it was you personally submitting the Prompts or someone else.
- bevekspldnw 2y agoThis was the same premise when AOL released an “anonymized” set of search data and it was easy to find the original people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_log_release https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_log_release
- malfist 2y agoThis is a "strangely specific denial" Metadata that contains PII is not shared. No mention of just data with PII, i.e. your chats.
- Centigonal 2y agoThey proxy the metadata (e.g. IP addresses) through their own servers. They can't launder the content of the chats.
- lancesells 2y ago> (for example, your IP address) is obfuscated from underlying model providers > so your personal information (for example, IP address) is not exposed to them Is this not two different things? The first one saying that the IP address is changed in some way to make it unidentifiable. The second one is saying it's just not sent.
- yegg 2y agoNo part of the IP address is sent.