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Why would number of recalls be proportional to number of vehicles shipped? I think number of recalls would be more proportional to number of car models availabl

Why would number of recalls be proportional to number of vehicles shipped? I think number of recalls would be more proportional to number of car models available. And number of vehicles recalled would be proportional to number of vehicles shipped. In this case 3,878 vehicles were recalled.

mcculley 3y ago
To me, “disproportionately bad with quality issues” would be about total units shipped.
- ripjaygn 3y ago
  Total units shipped since the inception of the company? I think the NHTSA was only formed in 1970.
  - mcculley 3y ago
    Which metric are you using when you use the word disproportionately?
    - ripjaygn 3y ago
      Linked it in the other comment that you had replied to. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40086651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40086651
      - mcculley 3y ago
        That says 2023. I don’t see Toyota mentioned in there at all. Maybe I’m missing something.
        ripjaygn 3y ago
        Toyota had a recall just a couple of days ago. That story wasn't even submitted to HN, while the Cybertruck already made the front page a couple of times and will probably continue to do so. That's a perfect example of disproportionate coverage leading to several commenters on this story automatically assuming Tesla is worse than other manufacturers. And somehow you didn't ask them for data saying you were curious but immediately jumped on my comment. That's typically not the behavior of someone that's starting with no data and neutral.
        mcculley 3y ago
        I asked about the data you are using when you say it is disproportionate. It sounds like you don’t have any.
        ripjaygn 3y ago
        As the saying goes, you can take a horse to the water, but you cannot make it drink it. Cannot help those who cannot help themselves.
        mcculley 3y ago
        You did not post any data. You made some assertions about Toyota and Tesla. I asked which data you were using. You linked to an infographic and an article about a recent recall. You seem to have a bias. You should think about that.
- frumper 3y ago
  Ford recalled 6 million vehicles last year. For some context, they sold around 2 million last year. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle-manufactures-recalls-2023/72195820007/#:~:text=In%20total%2C%206.3%20million%20Honda,with%2045%2C%20per%20NHTSA%20data https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle.... edit: To add, this isn't some one off event. In 2022 Ford recalled 8.6 million vehicles.

mcculley 3y ago

To me, “disproportionately bad with quality issues” would be about total units shipped.

ripjaygn 3y ago
Total units shipped since the inception of the company? I think the NHTSA was only formed in 1970.
- mcculley 3y ago
  Which metric are you using when you use the word disproportionately?
  - ripjaygn 3y ago
    Linked it in the other comment that you had replied to. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40086651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40086651
    - mcculley 3y ago
      That says 2023. I don’t see Toyota mentioned in there at all. Maybe I’m missing something.
      - ripjaygn 3y ago
        Toyota had a recall just a couple of days ago. That story wasn't even submitted to HN, while the Cybertruck already made the front page a couple of times and will probably continue to do so. That's a perfect example of disproportionate coverage leading to several commenters on this story automatically assuming Tesla is worse than other manufacturers. And somehow you didn't ask them for data saying you were curious but immediately jumped on my comment. That's typically not the behavior of someone that's starting with no data and neutral.
        mcculley 3y ago
        I asked about the data you are using when you say it is disproportionate. It sounds like you don’t have any.
        ripjaygn 3y ago
        As the saying goes, you can take a horse to the water, but you cannot make it drink it. Cannot help those who cannot help themselves.
        mcculley 3y ago
        You did not post any data. You made some assertions about Toyota and Tesla. I asked which data you were using. You linked to an infographic and an article about a recent recall. You seem to have a bias. You should think about that.
frumper 3y ago
Ford recalled 6 million vehicles last year. For some context, they sold around 2 million last year. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle-manufactures-recalls-2023/72195820007/#:~:text=In%20total%2C%206.3%20million%20Honda,with%2045%2C%20per%20NHTSA%20data https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle.... edit: To add, this isn't some one off event. In 2022 Ford recalled 8.6 million vehicles.