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Are you sure? China has hidden police stations everywhere and their expats are being threatened in real life abroad when expressing opinions.

yabutslivnwoods 3y ago
Every government has spies that engage with and manipulate the locals Kent State? UC Davis pepper spray? This is some invisible hand shit to ignore every nation state acts the same as every other. Look at the US trying to protect their propaganda outlets from TikTok. Despite the high minded rhetoric the real world leaves few options for behavior. “The devil you know…” isn’t on your side either
- NicoJuicy 3y ago
  Yes it is. The US or other western countries don't hide/censor things like China & the CCP, you're free to publish your opinion here. US doesn't have police stations in my country, but is following international rules for extradition. The level of danger involved with meta info gathering from the west is much safer than those from the "axis of evil". All dangerous trends seem to be coming from TikTok these days. And there is a reason TikTok itselve is also banned in China and why the videos on Douyin are so different. TikTok should have been banned yesterday. The CCP can't be trusted with a democratic country.
Nextgrid 3y ago
If it’s limited to their expats, it’s still a good deal for everyone else that isn’t a Chinese expat and has no connections to China.
- NicoJuicy 3y ago
  Wait, what? You think it's good that China is harassing Chinese who have abandoned the Chinese nationality even in foreign countries and ignoring the laws of that country and their new nationality? You think that's a good thing? You do know why normal countries don't extradite people to dictatorships, no? :) Because an opinion shouldn't be a death sentence.
  - Nextgrid 3y ago
    I'm not saying it's good as a whole, I'm just saying that if you're not Chinese, have no connections to China you are safer on a Chinese-owned platform than one controlled by your own government.
    - NicoJuicy 3y ago
      No you're not. Perhaps if you're a homeless bum with no real life importance at all, but they'll still want to bombard you with their propaganda.

yabutslivnwoods 3y ago

Every government has spies that engage with and manipulate the locals Kent State? UC Davis pepper spray? This is some invisible hand shit to ignore every nation state acts the same as every other. Look at the US trying to protect their propaganda outlets from TikTok. Despite the high minded rhetoric the real world leaves few options for behavior. “The devil you know…” isn’t on your side either

NicoJuicy 3y ago
Yes it is. The US or other western countries don't hide/censor things like China & the CCP, you're free to publish your opinion here. US doesn't have police stations in my country, but is following international rules for extradition. The level of danger involved with meta info gathering from the west is much safer than those from the "axis of evil". All dangerous trends seem to be coming from TikTok these days. And there is a reason TikTok itselve is also banned in China and why the videos on Douyin are so different. TikTok should have been banned yesterday. The CCP can't be trusted with a democratic country.

Nextgrid 3y ago

If it’s limited to their expats, it’s still a good deal for everyone else that isn’t a Chinese expat and has no connections to China.

NicoJuicy 3y ago
Wait, what? You think it's good that China is harassing Chinese who have abandoned the Chinese nationality even in foreign countries and ignoring the laws of that country and their new nationality? You think that's a good thing? You do know why normal countries don't extradite people to dictatorships, no? :) Because an opinion shouldn't be a death sentence.
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  I'm not saying it's good as a whole, I'm just saying that if you're not Chinese, have no connections to China you are safer on a Chinese-owned platform than one controlled by your own government.
  - NicoJuicy 3y ago
    No you're not. Perhaps if you're a homeless bum with no real life importance at all, but they'll still want to bombard you with their propaganda.