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Is the characterization wrong? And if so, in what way?

by Forbo 2y ago

csmpltn 2y ago
I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out. Just don't do it at work, at the expense of your colleagues.
- Forbo 2y ago
  No, genuinely help me to see the error. If my colleagues are enabling bad things, it is not bad to disrupt them. Don't be evil, instead just turn a blind eye to it.
  - csmpltn 2y ago
    > "No, genuinely help me to see the error." I thought Sundar's message was pretty clear. Do you not understand?
    - Forbo 2y ago
      He's speaking to a symptom, not the root of the problem. We're all for applying the five whys, except when it will prevent us from profiting.
megaman821 2y ago
Mostly in your abuse of the word genocide. Is it really that hard to disagree with how Israel is conducting the war without using catastrophizing language?
- Forbo 2y ago
  Not me. https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976 https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976
  - compsciphd 2y ago
    the same experts "testified" that Israel bombed a hospital that we now know it didn't. They have less than zero credibility. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-experts-decry-bombing-hospitals-and-schools-crimes-against-humanity https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-expe...
    - bluenomatterwho 2y ago
      Right? What are people on about?? There are a few buildings still standing. Some kids are still starving, it's not like they were all killed by bombs. Hopefully the final invasion will be successful and resettlement can begin, right? It's important we take the long view and not get bogged down by one hospital or another.
      - csmpltn 2y ago
        Something tells me you weren't protesting when innocent Israeli people were being mercilessly slaughtered on October the 7th, but you'll gladly sit there and paint an entire false narrative about a war, based on events that never happened, twitter/reddit memes, and your silly version of reality. A war which many people agree is justified, despite being difficult to conduct (in probably the most difficult conditions and circumstances of any war in modern human history) - but you'll just pretend like those people don't matter, their opinions are worthless, and that you have it all figured out (thanks to TikTok). Hence it's worth repeating Sundar's message, especially for self-centered phony hypocrites like you: keep your politics at home where they belong. Educate yourself about the world. Accept that things aren't black or white. Other people have opinions, too.
        bluenomatterwho 2y ago
        I'm independent so that isn't a problem for me. My response was to this mention of the 'credibility' of experts regarding one hospital. Gaza is obliterated. The repeated and deliberate targeting of World Central Kitchen aid workers may have arisen from very difficult conditions and circumstances indeed. Something tells me you're ready to settle atop that bloody soil. 'Educate yourself about the world' gave me a chuckle. Accept that there is right and wrong.
tonypags 2y ago
When a military force puts its assets under civilian infrastructure, that forces your enemy to flirt with near-genocide in order to protect themselves. There is no good guy nor bad guy in this fight. Only bad guys. Unfortunately innocents get caught up in the crossfire. Welcome to humanity, war is what we do. Stop trying to pick a side and start speaking out against all violence. People might be more willing to hear you out.

Is the characterization wrong? And if so, in what way?

by Forbo 2y ago

Is the characterization wrong? And if so, in what way?

csmpltn 2y ago

I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out. Just don't do it at work, at the expense of your colleagues.

Forbo 2y ago
No, genuinely help me to see the error. If my colleagues are enabling bad things, it is not bad to disrupt them. Don't be evil, instead just turn a blind eye to it.
- csmpltn 2y ago
  > "No, genuinely help me to see the error." I thought Sundar's message was pretty clear. Do you not understand?
  - Forbo 2y ago
    He's speaking to a symptom, not the root of the problem. We're all for applying the five whys, except when it will prevent us from profiting.

megaman821 2y ago

Mostly in your abuse of the word genocide. Is it really that hard to disagree with how Israel is conducting the war without using catastrophizing language?

Forbo 2y ago
Not me. https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976 https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976
- compsciphd 2y ago
  the same experts "testified" that Israel bombed a hospital that we now know it didn't. They have less than zero credibility. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-experts-decry-bombing-hospitals-and-schools-crimes-against-humanity https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-expe...
  - bluenomatterwho 2y ago
    Right? What are people on about?? There are a few buildings still standing. Some kids are still starving, it's not like they were all killed by bombs. Hopefully the final invasion will be successful and resettlement can begin, right? It's important we take the long view and not get bogged down by one hospital or another.
    - csmpltn 2y ago
      Something tells me you weren't protesting when innocent Israeli people were being mercilessly slaughtered on October the 7th, but you'll gladly sit there and paint an entire false narrative about a war, based on events that never happened, twitter/reddit memes, and your silly version of reality. A war which many people agree is justified, despite being difficult to conduct (in probably the most difficult conditions and circumstances of any war in modern human history) - but you'll just pretend like those people don't matter, their opinions are worthless, and that you have it all figured out (thanks to TikTok). Hence it's worth repeating Sundar's message, especially for self-centered phony hypocrites like you: keep your politics at home where they belong. Educate yourself about the world. Accept that things aren't black or white. Other people have opinions, too.
      - bluenomatterwho 2y ago
        I'm independent so that isn't a problem for me. My response was to this mention of the 'credibility' of experts regarding one hospital. Gaza is obliterated. The repeated and deliberate targeting of World Central Kitchen aid workers may have arisen from very difficult conditions and circumstances indeed. Something tells me you're ready to settle atop that bloody soil. 'Educate yourself about the world' gave me a chuckle. Accept that there is right and wrong.

tonypags 2y ago

When a military force puts its assets under civilian infrastructure, that forces your enemy to flirt with near-genocide in order to protect themselves. There is no good guy nor bad guy in this fight. Only bad guys. Unfortunately innocents get caught up in the crossfire. Welcome to humanity, war is what we do. Stop trying to pick a side and start speaking out against all violence. People might be more willing to hear you out.