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What rails ghetto hoodlums? Seriously, every community has a few bad apples, it's totally unfair to judge the whole by the behaviour of a very few. You'd proba

by enko 14y ago

What rails ghetto hoodlums? Seriously, every community has a few bad apples, it's totally unfair to judge the whole by the behaviour of a very few. You'd probably object if you heard someone judging an entire ethnic group by the actions of a couple of extremists - how is this any different? /rails dev frustrated by the seemingly bad image of the community despite 99.99% of it being actually really nice

brohee 14y ago
You may be missing a reference or two : http://www.zedshaw.com.sharedcopy.com/rants/51489cec9386f7c13f69b3a58cd50b02.html http://www.zedshaw.com.sharedcopy.com/rants/51489cec9386f7c1... and http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/04/25/why-rails-is-still-a-ghetto/ http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/04/25/why-rails-is-still-a...
- enko 14y ago
  A couple of >3 year old blog posts proves that all rails developers are assholes? Is that really what you're hanging all your beliefs on? Sorry dude but that's just stupid. There are hundreds of thousands of rails developers all across the world and all you can cite is a couple of years old blog posts - one of them a cache because the author regretted posting it! I just got back from the Red Dot Ruby conference in Singapore and it was nothing but wall to wall nice people. This attention seeking nonsense you cite may as well be light years away. We are all just focussed on sharing knowledge, growing the community, and developing good software. It's 2012. Rails is far and away the best choice for developing pretty much any normal web app. Trying to tar the entire community with some old blog posts is pretty lame at best. Oh, and for what it's worth, there were quite a few women at the conference, and high school students too. Thank god you weren't there to spread this bullshit.
  - brohee 14y ago
    Sarcasm is really lost on you. Zed Shaw's blog was a pretty big hit when it was posted, because he was a very relevant person in the community (he wrote Mongrel in case you don't place him). The term ghetto stuck to this day, mostly as a joke. As for Rail being "far and away the best choice for developing pretty much any normal web app", that may be true if one define a normal Web app as being a CRUD application with a REST architecture, that covers lots of ground, but still far from universal.

by enko 14y ago

brohee 14y ago

You may be missing a reference or two : http://www.zedshaw.com.sharedcopy.com/rants/51489cec9386f7c13f69b3a58cd50b02.html http://www.zedshaw.com.sharedcopy.com/rants/51489cec9386f7c1... and http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/04/25/why-rails-is-still-a-ghetto/ http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/04/25/why-rails-is-still-a...

enko 14y ago
A couple of >3 year old blog posts proves that all rails developers are assholes? Is that really what you're hanging all your beliefs on? Sorry dude but that's just stupid. There are hundreds of thousands of rails developers all across the world and all you can cite is a couple of years old blog posts - one of them a cache because the author regretted posting it! I just got back from the Red Dot Ruby conference in Singapore and it was nothing but wall to wall nice people. This attention seeking nonsense you cite may as well be light years away. We are all just focussed on sharing knowledge, growing the community, and developing good software. It's 2012. Rails is far and away the best choice for developing pretty much any normal web app. Trying to tar the entire community with some old blog posts is pretty lame at best. Oh, and for what it's worth, there were quite a few women at the conference, and high school students too. Thank god you weren't there to spread this bullshit.
- brohee 14y ago
  Sarcasm is really lost on you. Zed Shaw's blog was a pretty big hit when it was posted, because he was a very relevant person in the community (he wrote Mongrel in case you don't place him). The term ghetto stuck to this day, mostly as a joke. As for Rail being "far and away the best choice for developing pretty much any normal web app", that may be true if one define a normal Web app as being a CRUD application with a REST architecture, that covers lots of ground, but still far from universal.