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A very weird list with only "better command line package management" and "middle-click paste" being obviously reasonable items in it. > Different desktop envir

A very weird list with only "better command line package management" and "middle-click paste" being obviously reasonable items in it. > Different desktop environments Standardized coherent desktop experience arguably is the number-one thing people love Macs for. > Desktop Cube, wobbly windows Arguably the most pointless Linux features ever. A perfect example of a feature which exists purely "just for fun" and for no other reason. > Snap or Flatpak ... are the Linux world's attempts to clone the way apps are managed on Mac.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
>> Desktop Cube, wobbly windows > Arguably the most pointless Linux features ever. A perfect example of a feature which exists purely "just for fun" and for no other reason. Fun is an excellent reason, but also it's my personal opinion that there was a while there when a significant number of new users to desktop Linux were enticed in by compiz (which I am counting as a pragmatic win).
- qwerty456127 3y ago
  Fun is an excellent reason when its really fun and keeps being fun long, comes at a reasonably humble cost. To me compiz always felt the buggiest pieces of software ever while the real fun of it was just some minutes of wow, then just unnecessary pain.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    Okay, if that's your experience then that's fair. I don't recall ever hitting any bugs in compiz and I don't recall it ever getting old, though it may have eventually faded a bit into the background. So honestly that alone is probably enough to explain the differing opinions of it. Of course, nowadays I've got approximately zero visual flair on my computing environment, so I'm not sure what to conclude from that...
    - qwerty456127 3y ago
      My apparent bias is because I have never had a dedicated GPU since the golden days of 3DFx, only laptops with built-in mostly-Intel graphics. Compiz apparently was not made for these. And the only week I had a PC with a full-blown nVidia GPU in my disposition it was bleeding-edge new so no driver worked well with it. One lesson (or whatever you call it when you learn something questionable because of the inherent bias in the circumstances) my whole life has been teaching me is 3D acceleration is always about bugs and quirks, often also about slowness and I hardly want these in my window manager. And now as I am transitioning into an old fart, I dream of my whole UI to look like an zen-boring e-Ink eBook reader rather than a wobbly&colorful bells&whistles flying circus :-] Surely I agree the MacOS DE could use a lot of customizations to allow though.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

>> Desktop Cube, wobbly windows > Arguably the most pointless Linux features ever. A perfect example of a feature which exists purely "just for fun" and for no other reason. Fun is an excellent reason, but also it's my personal opinion that there was a while there when a significant number of new users to desktop Linux were enticed in by compiz (which I am counting as a pragmatic win).

qwerty456127 3y ago
Fun is an excellent reason when its really fun and keeps being fun long, comes at a reasonably humble cost. To me compiz always felt the buggiest pieces of software ever while the real fun of it was just some minutes of wow, then just unnecessary pain.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  Okay, if that's your experience then that's fair. I don't recall ever hitting any bugs in compiz and I don't recall it ever getting old, though it may have eventually faded a bit into the background. So honestly that alone is probably enough to explain the differing opinions of it. Of course, nowadays I've got approximately zero visual flair on my computing environment, so I'm not sure what to conclude from that...
  - qwerty456127 3y ago
    My apparent bias is because I have never had a dedicated GPU since the golden days of 3DFx, only laptops with built-in mostly-Intel graphics. Compiz apparently was not made for these. And the only week I had a PC with a full-blown nVidia GPU in my disposition it was bleeding-edge new so no driver worked well with it. One lesson (or whatever you call it when you learn something questionable because of the inherent bias in the circumstances) my whole life has been teaching me is 3D acceleration is always about bugs and quirks, often also about slowness and I hardly want these in my window manager. And now as I am transitioning into an old fart, I dream of my whole UI to look like an zen-boring e-Ink eBook reader rather than a wobbly&colorful bells&whistles flying circus :-] Surely I agree the MacOS DE could use a lot of customizations to allow though.