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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/china-lobbying-tiktok-congress-00152819 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/china-lobbying-tikt... > In a stateme

by wumeow 3y ago

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/china-lobbying-tiktok-congress-00152819 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/china-lobbying-tikt... > In a statement, embassy spokesperson Liu Pengyu said that the “Chinese Embassy in the US tries to tell the truth about the TikTok issue to people from all walks of life in the US.” > “This is not about lobbying for a single company,” the spokesperson added, “but about whether all Chinese companies can be treated fairly.” > In the wake of the House bill’s passage, China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the legislation “puts the US on the wrong side of the principles of fair competition and international trade rules.” Hypocrites. Pass the TikTok bill.

kanbara 3y ago
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- slimebot80 3y ago
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- NicoJuicy 3y ago
  No. You may lack privacy in both. But TikTok is the CCP, it even has board members from the CCP.
  - graemep 3y ago
    Which is a concern from a national security point of view. From a personal point of view the Chinese government is less of a threat to my privacy than my own country's government because they have far less access to other information about me, so cannot correlate other things with whatever I do on tik-tok.
    - NicoJuicy 3y ago
      Are you sure? China has hidden police stations everywhere and their expats are being threatened in real life abroad when expressing opinions.
      - yabutslivnwoods 3y ago
        Every government has spies that engage with and manipulate the locals Kent State? UC Davis pepper spray? This is some invisible hand shit to ignore every nation state acts the same as every other. Look at the US trying to protect their propaganda outlets from TikTok. Despite the high minded rhetoric the real world leaves few options for behavior. “The devil you know…” isn’t on your side either
        NicoJuicy 3y ago
        Yes it is. The US or other western countries don't hide/censor things like China & the CCP, you're free to publish your opinion here. US doesn't have police stations in my country, but is following international rules for extradition. The level of danger involved with meta info gathering from the west is much safer than those from the "axis of evil". All dangerous trends seem to be coming from TikTok these days. And there is a reason TikTok itselve is also banned in China and why the videos on Douyin are so different. TikTok should have been banned yesterday. The CCP can't be trusted with a democratic country.
      - Nextgrid 3y ago
        If it’s limited to their expats, it’s still a good deal for everyone else that isn’t a Chinese expat and has no connections to China.
        NicoJuicy 3y ago
        Wait, what? You think it's good that China is harassing Chinese who have abandoned the Chinese nationality even in foreign countries and ignoring the laws of that country and their new nationality? You think that's a good thing? You do know why normal countries don't extradite people to dictatorships, no? :) Because an opinion shouldn't be a death sentence.
        Nextgrid 3y ago
        I'm not saying it's good as a whole, I'm just saying that if you're not Chinese, have no connections to China you are safer on a Chinese-owned platform than one controlled by your own government.

by wumeow 3y ago

kanbara 3y ago

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slimebot80 3y ago
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NicoJuicy 3y ago
No. You may lack privacy in both. But TikTok is the CCP, it even has board members from the CCP.
- graemep 3y ago
  Which is a concern from a national security point of view. From a personal point of view the Chinese government is less of a threat to my privacy than my own country's government because they have far less access to other information about me, so cannot correlate other things with whatever I do on tik-tok.
  - NicoJuicy 3y ago
    Are you sure? China has hidden police stations everywhere and their expats are being threatened in real life abroad when expressing opinions.
    - yabutslivnwoods 3y ago
      Every government has spies that engage with and manipulate the locals Kent State? UC Davis pepper spray? This is some invisible hand shit to ignore every nation state acts the same as every other. Look at the US trying to protect their propaganda outlets from TikTok. Despite the high minded rhetoric the real world leaves few options for behavior. “The devil you know…” isn’t on your side either
      - NicoJuicy 3y ago
        Yes it is. The US or other western countries don't hide/censor things like China & the CCP, you're free to publish your opinion here. US doesn't have police stations in my country, but is following international rules for extradition. The level of danger involved with meta info gathering from the west is much safer than those from the "axis of evil". All dangerous trends seem to be coming from TikTok these days. And there is a reason TikTok itselve is also banned in China and why the videos on Douyin are so different. TikTok should have been banned yesterday. The CCP can't be trusted with a democratic country.
    - Nextgrid 3y ago
      If it’s limited to their expats, it’s still a good deal for everyone else that isn’t a Chinese expat and has no connections to China.
      - NicoJuicy 3y ago
        Wait, what? You think it's good that China is harassing Chinese who have abandoned the Chinese nationality even in foreign countries and ignoring the laws of that country and their new nationality? You think that's a good thing? You do know why normal countries don't extradite people to dictatorships, no? :) Because an opinion shouldn't be a death sentence.
        Nextgrid 3y ago
        I'm not saying it's good as a whole, I'm just saying that if you're not Chinese, have no connections to China you are safer on a Chinese-owned platform than one controlled by your own government.