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I'm not sure you completed the thought. You put forward civil war as the outcome of widespread distrust in institutions, but then gave an example of society co

by jpk 2y ago

I'm not sure you completed the thought. You put forward civil war as the outcome of widespread distrust in institutions, but then gave an example of society continuing to function just with greater discomfort, inefficiency, and crime. What's the path from that, to war?

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llm_trw 2y ago
A civil war doesn't mean that you have troops shooting each other in the streets of every city. It means that there are regions where the government can't project authority. Ukraine before the Russian invasion was a perfect example. You could walk around Kiev without a care in the world, 500km to the east you had death squads trying to suppress an honest to god soviet insurgency.
- immibis 2y ago
  Then aren't they just the government?
  - pixl97 2y ago
    It depends if you consider a group not based on the rule of law a government.
    - lispisok 2y ago
      Where does the rule of law come from?
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      - mlinhares 2y ago
        From the (almost) monopoly on violence.
    - immibis 2y ago
      Are the current governments in the USA and Germany governments?
- brabel 2y ago
  > 500km to the east you had death squads trying to suppress an honest to god soviet insurgency. Wasn't the Maidan Revolution in 2014 also an "insurgency" against the government right in the center of Kiev?
mlinhares 2y ago
Haiti, a considerable part of sub Saharan Africa, Burma, there’s plenty of examples of society failing and leading to civil war.