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Delta City '95 – Complete pack of official updates for Microsoft Windows 95

92 points by Lammy 3y ago

schlauerfox 3y ago
Any torrent mirrors of the ISOs? the site looks hugged. Nothing in archive.org search.
- Lammy 3y ago
  Boom, mirrored: https://archive.org/details/deltacity95-v0.75 https://archive.org/details/deltacity95-v0.75 I even included my archive of the linked page itself.
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qwerty456127 3y ago
Very cool. I'm going to try installing in DosBox now. What about Windows 3.11, 98 and NT4?
- unixhero 3y ago
  All on Winworld, https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
  - qwerty456127 3y ago
    Awesome. Thank you. Looking for Visual Studio 6 now. Only found Spanish and Japanese versions so far.
    - unixhero 3y ago
      Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36478456 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36478456
      - qwerty456127 3y ago
        Thank you for trying to help but Tenox appears dead - it now leads to a page advertising some kind of IoT-related services.
        unixhero 3y ago
        No worries! No it is not dead, working perfectly here. There's also: https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/ https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/ https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/search.php?text=visual+studio+6&page=1 https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/search.php?text=visual+studio+6&pa...
        qwerty456127 3y ago
        Thank you so much. Such a great place. I was sad to see it dead immediately as I read it existed. What a relief.
- muterad_murilax 3y ago
  For Windows 98 Second Edition there is the unofficial Service Pack 3, https://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/ https://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/
  - nubinetwork 3y ago
    There is also https://windowsupdaterestored.com/ https://windowsupdaterestored.com/ but it needs some tweaking to get it to run mostly because of the url change and ssl certificates...
actionfromafar 3y ago
See also Python for Windows 95: https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2020/12/python-27-windows-95.html https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2020/12/python-27-w... With KernelEx you can run VLC: https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Installing_VLC/ https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Installing_VLC/ General list of software which works on Windows 95: https://msfn.org/board/topic/176623-last-versions-of-software-for-windows-95/ https://msfn.org/board/topic/176623-last-versions-of-softwar...
nubinetwork 3y ago
.net was also ported to windows 95 recently... https://github.com/itsmattkc/dotnet9x https://github.com/itsmattkc/dotnet9x
ktosobcy 3y ago
I love dinosaur cursor! I miss old crazy-odd-web like that :-)
lupusreal 3y ago
For the people who are into this sort of thing, did you have much experience with these old Windows versions back in the 90s when they were new, or is it about exploring old tech from before your time? For me, I lived with 95 and 98 when they were new and looking back it was a nightmare. The ever present threat of crashes and losing work left a lasting negative impression on me, I have no nostalgic fondness for these systems. It was this pain that motivated me to install a copy of Red Hat Linux I found in the back of a book in the library and that's how I got "into computers", so I guess I own that much to Microsoft.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  Same. I have a fondness for NT4.0. Very solid and very fast. Felt like an OS which stayed out of your way and just ran apps. I also tried NT 3.51, but didn't clock many hours on that system, but it felt even more solid and very smooth. Not much software was compatible with it though, so there wasn't much point trying to use it as a daily driver past its prime. NT4 I used probably way too long, installed cygwin on it, sshd, coaxed it to play games with unofficial versions of DirectX and Voodoo 5 and forced it to run newer versions of Visual Studio which really expected Windows XP or something.
  - pauljara 3y ago
    NT 4.0 was solid and felt fast! The UI was so snappy. You could just leave it running and never reboot -- it almost became a geek humble brag to do so. For those too young to remember, one of Windows 98's marketed features was the ability to use ACPI to turn off your computer without you having to press a physical power button! It was just expected the device would need to be turned off. Windows 2000 was great too, which PC enthusiasts at the time realized was essentially "NT 5.0 but can play games because it has (official) DirectX". It's amazing how there's so little nostalgia for these two OSes. I watch some retro PC YouTubers and most haven't ever covered them. There's so much nostalgia for Windows XP. But among enthusiasts, the first impressions were that it ran slower than Windows 2000 and looked like a Fisher Price toy. I think a lot of PC enthusiasts hung onto these two OSes, as you point out, until they eventually relented and used Windows XP around the time of Service Pack 2's release. I ran LiteStep (http://litestep.net http://litestep.net) on NT 4.0 at one point in my teens, completely unaware that Apple would eventually make a NeXT-style operating system something I'd use as a daily driver.
MPSimmons 3y ago
I am so incredibly glad that I have no use for this.
brnt 3y ago
Maybe this is a good place to ask: what's the best way to run a Windows retro machine for games these days? Virtualbox, Dosbox-x?
- pshirshov 3y ago
  dosbox-x, unless you want to run direct3d games.
  - sebazzz 3y ago
    There is PCem for that, but I had mixed results in terms of stability and speed. Apparently x86 is hard to emulate in a performant way.
  - brnt 3y ago
    I see some recommend it as as the top option; it isn't at all?
- Scaevolus 3y ago
  There's a roughly 5 year gap from ~1996-2002, tracking the rise of early GPUs and predating widespread Windows NT support and the release of DirectX 9, where it can be difficult to run old games. Otherwise, Dosbox is great for really old games and you can directly run most games released in the last 20 years on modern hardware.

92 points by Lammy 3y ago

schlauerfox 3y ago

Any torrent mirrors of the ISOs? the site looks hugged. Nothing in archive.org search.

Lammy 3y ago
Boom, mirrored: https://archive.org/details/deltacity95-v0.75 https://archive.org/details/deltacity95-v0.75 I even included my archive of the linked page itself.

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qwerty456127 3y ago

Very cool. I'm going to try installing in DosBox now. What about Windows 3.11, 98 and NT4?

unixhero 3y ago
All on Winworld, https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
- qwerty456127 3y ago
  Awesome. Thank you. Looking for Visual Studio 6 now. Only found Spanish and Japanese versions so far.
  - unixhero 3y ago
    Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36478456 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36478456
    - qwerty456127 3y ago
      Thank you for trying to help but Tenox appears dead - it now leads to a page advertising some kind of IoT-related services.
      - unixhero 3y ago
        No worries! No it is not dead, working perfectly here. There's also: https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/ https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/ https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/search.php?text=visual+studio+6&page=1 https://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/search.php?text=visual+studio+6&pa...
        qwerty456127 3y ago
        Thank you so much. Such a great place. I was sad to see it dead immediately as I read it existed. What a relief.
muterad_murilax 3y ago
For Windows 98 Second Edition there is the unofficial Service Pack 3, https://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/ https://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/
- nubinetwork 3y ago
  There is also https://windowsupdaterestored.com/ https://windowsupdaterestored.com/ but it needs some tweaking to get it to run mostly because of the url change and ssl certificates...

actionfromafar 3y ago

See also Python for Windows 95: https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2020/12/python-27-windows-95.html https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2020/12/python-27-w... With KernelEx you can run VLC: https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Installing_VLC/ https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Installing_VLC/ General list of software which works on Windows 95: https://msfn.org/board/topic/176623-last-versions-of-software-for-windows-95/ https://msfn.org/board/topic/176623-last-versions-of-softwar...

nubinetwork 3y ago

.net was also ported to windows 95 recently... https://github.com/itsmattkc/dotnet9x https://github.com/itsmattkc/dotnet9x

ktosobcy 3y ago

I love dinosaur cursor! I miss old crazy-odd-web like that :-)

lupusreal 3y ago

For the people who are into this sort of thing, did you have much experience with these old Windows versions back in the 90s when they were new, or is it about exploring old tech from before your time? For me, I lived with 95 and 98 when they were new and looking back it was a nightmare. The ever present threat of crashes and losing work left a lasting negative impression on me, I have no nostalgic fondness for these systems. It was this pain that motivated me to install a copy of Red Hat Linux I found in the back of a book in the library and that's how I got "into computers", so I guess I own that much to Microsoft.

actionfromafar 3y ago
Same. I have a fondness for NT4.0. Very solid and very fast. Felt like an OS which stayed out of your way and just ran apps. I also tried NT 3.51, but didn't clock many hours on that system, but it felt even more solid and very smooth. Not much software was compatible with it though, so there wasn't much point trying to use it as a daily driver past its prime. NT4 I used probably way too long, installed cygwin on it, sshd, coaxed it to play games with unofficial versions of DirectX and Voodoo 5 and forced it to run newer versions of Visual Studio which really expected Windows XP or something.
- pauljara 3y ago
  NT 4.0 was solid and felt fast! The UI was so snappy. You could just leave it running and never reboot -- it almost became a geek humble brag to do so. For those too young to remember, one of Windows 98's marketed features was the ability to use ACPI to turn off your computer without you having to press a physical power button! It was just expected the device would need to be turned off. Windows 2000 was great too, which PC enthusiasts at the time realized was essentially "NT 5.0 but can play games because it has (official) DirectX". It's amazing how there's so little nostalgia for these two OSes. I watch some retro PC YouTubers and most haven't ever covered them. There's so much nostalgia for Windows XP. But among enthusiasts, the first impressions were that it ran slower than Windows 2000 and looked like a Fisher Price toy. I think a lot of PC enthusiasts hung onto these two OSes, as you point out, until they eventually relented and used Windows XP around the time of Service Pack 2's release. I ran LiteStep (http://litestep.net http://litestep.net) on NT 4.0 at one point in my teens, completely unaware that Apple would eventually make a NeXT-style operating system something I'd use as a daily driver.

MPSimmons 3y ago

I am so incredibly glad that I have no use for this.

brnt 3y ago

Maybe this is a good place to ask: what's the best way to run a Windows retro machine for games these days? Virtualbox, Dosbox-x?

pshirshov 3y ago
dosbox-x, unless you want to run direct3d games.
- sebazzz 3y ago
  There is PCem for that, but I had mixed results in terms of stability and speed. Apparently x86 is hard to emulate in a performant way.
- brnt 3y ago
  I see some recommend it as as the top option; it isn't at all?
Scaevolus 3y ago
There's a roughly 5 year gap from ~1996-2002, tracking the rise of early GPUs and predating widespread Windows NT support and the release of DirectX 9, where it can be difficult to run old games. Otherwise, Dosbox is great for really old games and you can directly run most games released in the last 20 years on modern hardware.