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> First, the title should be changed. The source article is titled "Score One for the Robo-Tutors" or "Machine Learning: Score One for the Robo-Tutors", not "St

by Cushman 14y ago

> First, the title should be changed. The source article is titled "Score One for the Robo-Tutors" or "Machine Learning: Score One for the Robo-Tutors", not "Students Learn as Well from Software as from Live Teachers". Where does this idea come from that the title should be the same? Granted, the current title isn't quite perfect either -- "Study Reports Software Speeds Up Teaching" would be more accurate -- but it's at least more informative, and certainly no more editorial, than "Score One for the Robo-Tutors".

tokenadult 14y ago
Where does this idea come from that the title should be the same? It is suggested although not mandated by the Hacker News guidelines: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Please don't do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or adding a parenthetical remark saying how great an article is. It's implicit in submitting something that you think it's important." . . . . "You can make up a new title if you want, but if you put gratuitous editorial spin on it, the editors may rewrite it." The retitling in this case seems to have been effective for eliciting more discussion, and I appreciate the various interesting comments here. I regret cases where I submit an article with an original title, only to find out that the same article was submitted hours before with a retitled submission title, one that is missed by Hacker News participants and does not elicit discussion. Most professionally published articles have well written headlines, and it is often hard for HN participants to improve upon those.
- Cushman 14y ago
  It's not even suggested. The guidelines are explicit that the original title should be edited or replaced to bring it into line with our community standards. Headlines may be professionally written, but they are written with incentives which don't favor HN readers. Most of the time, I'd prefer to hear why the submitter thinks I should read something rather than why the author does.

by Cushman 14y ago

tokenadult 14y ago

Where does this idea come from that the title should be the same? It is suggested although not mandated by the Hacker News guidelines: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Please don't do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or adding a parenthetical remark saying how great an article is. It's implicit in submitting something that you think it's important." . . . . "You can make up a new title if you want, but if you put gratuitous editorial spin on it, the editors may rewrite it." The retitling in this case seems to have been effective for eliciting more discussion, and I appreciate the various interesting comments here. I regret cases where I submit an article with an original title, only to find out that the same article was submitted hours before with a retitled submission title, one that is missed by Hacker News participants and does not elicit discussion. Most professionally published articles have well written headlines, and it is often hard for HN participants to improve upon those.

Cushman 14y ago
It's not even suggested. The guidelines are explicit that the original title should be edited or replaced to bring it into line with our community standards. Headlines may be professionally written, but they are written with incentives which don't favor HN readers. Most of the time, I'd prefer to hear why the submitter thinks I should read something rather than why the author does.