yeah, fair. I posted in a sibling comment two more reasons imo. advertising fits with brainwashing, namely that it: Is done scientifically and at huge scale by

yeah, fair. I posted in a sibling comment two more reasons imo. advertising fits with brainwashing, namely that it: Is done scientifically and at huge scale by powerful entities & is non-consentual, almost everyone would rather not see ads or internalize their ideas. (Coors beer is cool and if you drink it women will like you more, yuck, who wants to believe that) But yeah, you're right that just influencing thoughts is not the only part of the definition. And really past a certain point anything is impossible to define, so these arguments are always a little weird. Eg. I challenge you to give an airtight definition of what is a chair. Calling advertizment brainwashing is certainly a little provocative, & in my opinion perfectly correct given the scale and goals. But I can see how it can be annoying in retrospect. Glad we agree that spending that much on it is sad