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>I don’t see the problem. Insurance companies aren’t charities, they exist to make a profit. How do insurance companies make profits? By paying out less than th

>I don’t see the problem. Insurance companies aren’t charities, they exist to make a profit. How do insurance companies make profits? By paying out less than they charge. In other words, by ripping you off. Government can provide these services at cost. The evidence for this is: every other developed country. Insurance is a service, basically holding and investing your money and absorbing unknown risks, and processing payments. The government can't actually do it cheaper except by utilizing salary-controlled labor and other tricks. >The evidence for this is: every other developed country. This only happens in the West, and the West (with the exception of a few oil-rich countries) is financially screwed. >It’s not an accident that Canadians live longer than Americans. Canadians get healthcare, Americans get propaganda and excuses for why it’s not possible. And propaganda doesn’t help you when you’re sick. Canadians constantly complain about their system. It is very difficult to get appointments and their healthcare system is increasingly offering/suggesting euthanasia as a cure for various ills, even simple depression. No thanks.

janalsncm 3y ago
The risks are unknown at an individual level but at a population level are quantifiable and fairly stable. In any case the companies are turning profits in the billions of dollars which means Americans are overpaying for worse outcomes. > Canadians constantly complain about their system Everyone complains. That’s part of democracy. Americans complain about our health care system too. What matters is outcomes, and Canadians live longer than Americans. The fact of the matter is the US government can’t figure out how to get healthcare to people, so instead sells them excuses and propaganda for why not fixing the problem is actually acceptable.
- wakawaka28 3y ago
  >In any case the companies are turning profits in the billions of dollars which means Americans are overpaying for worse outcomes. Have you accounted for billions in extra taxes? I'm sure their system wastes plenty as well as ours. Not all insurance profits are "waste" either man. A lot of that "waste" profit funds individual retirement plans through the stock market. >What matters is outcomes, and Canadians live longer than Americans. You have yet to prove that they live longer specifically because of their healthcare, ir longer in general. Maybe they just aren't as fat, or the cold weather helps. >The fact of the matter is the US government can’t figure out how to get healthcare to people, so instead sells them excuses and propaganda for why not fixing the problem is actually acceptable. It's not their job to get healthcare to people. The US government does do healthcare in some cases but in general it is an individual problem and not the duty of the government. You can argue about whether it should be (with someone else!) but the government is not obligated to solve all your problems.

janalsncm 3y ago

The risks are unknown at an individual level but at a population level are quantifiable and fairly stable. In any case the companies are turning profits in the billions of dollars which means Americans are overpaying for worse outcomes. > Canadians constantly complain about their system Everyone complains. That’s part of democracy. Americans complain about our health care system too. What matters is outcomes, and Canadians live longer than Americans. The fact of the matter is the US government can’t figure out how to get healthcare to people, so instead sells them excuses and propaganda for why not fixing the problem is actually acceptable.

wakawaka28 3y ago
>In any case the companies are turning profits in the billions of dollars which means Americans are overpaying for worse outcomes. Have you accounted for billions in extra taxes? I'm sure their system wastes plenty as well as ours. Not all insurance profits are "waste" either man. A lot of that "waste" profit funds individual retirement plans through the stock market. >What matters is outcomes, and Canadians live longer than Americans. You have yet to prove that they live longer specifically because of their healthcare, ir longer in general. Maybe they just aren't as fat, or the cold weather helps. >The fact of the matter is the US government can’t figure out how to get healthcare to people, so instead sells them excuses and propaganda for why not fixing the problem is actually acceptable. It's not their job to get healthcare to people. The US government does do healthcare in some cases but in general it is an individual problem and not the duty of the government. You can argue about whether it should be (with someone else!) but the government is not obligated to solve all your problems.