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The conduct Israel is employing in Gaza is indeed that of genocide. They are not purely targeting and killing active Hamas combatants, but their homes and famil

The conduct Israel is employing in Gaza is indeed that of genocide. They are not purely targeting and killing active Hamas combatants, but their homes and families as well as infrastructure, schools, hospitals, residential neighborhoods etc. The Palestinian peoples living their lives in Gaza are the victims of this genocide and Hamas members are the collateral. The lives of Palestinians in Gaza has been made unbearable (criteria 2c of genocide convention). You claim this isn’t backed by facts. But you are wrong. There has been a case filed at the world court with 85 pages of evidence. The world court has ruled this evidence as relevant and incriminating. Since the case was filed more evidence has been piling up, which we can see in various media outlets, so much so that the world court issued an addendum to their ruling when it became apparent that Israel was using starvation of the Palestinian people as a weapon of war, and plausibly as a means towards genocide. Your claim that this is a political ploy be people who hate Jews is baseless and without merit. This is a desperate attempt of people actively trying prevent Palestinian people from being victims of genocide.

ilililolol 3y ago
Israel are defending themselves, showing considerable restraint in difficult circumstances. The actions of Hamas are genocide as they were and are indiscriminately targeting and attacking Jewish people.
informed1277 3y ago
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nolongerthere 3y ago
There is no such thing as a world court, please stop making things up. You continue to appeal to authority as if that proves everything. Nothing you've said in this entire discussion is based in reality. Not a word of it. Please consider simply actually looking at reality and not allowing false propaganda to sway your understanding. Calling something genocide doesn't make it so. Calling Hamas collateral damage is further proof of your totally warped world view.
- runarberg 3y ago
  I really shouldn’t be engaging with this. Attacking me personally and calling me names is not the HN way. However I’d like to clarify one thing. The World Court is used interchangeably with the International Court of Justice (ICJ). Googling “World Court” yields ICJ as the first result. Typing “World Court” into Wikipedia gives you the page for ICJ. In many languages (including my native tongue) this court is called the World Court. I beg you to please show some curiosity, if you encounter a term you don’t know, it is easier to search the term (or ask) rather then to accuse the poster of idiocy.
  - nolongerthere 3y ago
    Where did I call you a name? I attacked your view and argument. You clearly like to toss out baseless accusations, but that doesn't make them true. Regardless of their name, they hold no authority and are an entirely political organization as I've said in other comments. I'm not sure what I need to show curiosity about, I've been very open to any discussion here, but if all you continue to bring are baseless accusations of hate, without adding anything there isn't really any more curiosity to be had.
    - runarberg 3y ago
      You accused me of making things up and being delusional (which is quite ableist name calling IMO) by saying things like: “Nothing you've said in this entire discussion is based in reality”, and “Please consider getting your facts from this reality and not the false one you invent in your imagination” Without elaborating what you mean by that, the only way I can take it is if you believe me to have delusions. When you say stuff like: “You have no idea what genocide means” you accuse me of ignorance, despite the fact that earlier I made it clear what I meant by it, and even cited the genocide convention. The only way I can take this is that you believe me to be dumb (which may be true TBH). You didn’t attack my arguments, rather you assumed my worldview to be delusional or ignorant and ordered me to stop doing that. You also accused me of anti-semitism elsewhere, but I choice not to engage with that.

ilililolol 3y ago

Israel are defending themselves, showing considerable restraint in difficult circumstances. The actions of Hamas are genocide as they were and are indiscriminately targeting and attacking Jewish people.

informed1277 3y ago

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nolongerthere 3y ago

There is no such thing as a world court, please stop making things up. You continue to appeal to authority as if that proves everything. Nothing you've said in this entire discussion is based in reality. Not a word of it. Please consider simply actually looking at reality and not allowing false propaganda to sway your understanding. Calling something genocide doesn't make it so. Calling Hamas collateral damage is further proof of your totally warped world view.

runarberg 3y ago
I really shouldn’t be engaging with this. Attacking me personally and calling me names is not the HN way. However I’d like to clarify one thing. The World Court is used interchangeably with the International Court of Justice (ICJ). Googling “World Court” yields ICJ as the first result. Typing “World Court” into Wikipedia gives you the page for ICJ. In many languages (including my native tongue) this court is called the World Court. I beg you to please show some curiosity, if you encounter a term you don’t know, it is easier to search the term (or ask) rather then to accuse the poster of idiocy.
- nolongerthere 3y ago
  Where did I call you a name? I attacked your view and argument. You clearly like to toss out baseless accusations, but that doesn't make them true. Regardless of their name, they hold no authority and are an entirely political organization as I've said in other comments. I'm not sure what I need to show curiosity about, I've been very open to any discussion here, but if all you continue to bring are baseless accusations of hate, without adding anything there isn't really any more curiosity to be had.
  - runarberg 3y ago
    You accused me of making things up and being delusional (which is quite ableist name calling IMO) by saying things like: “Nothing you've said in this entire discussion is based in reality”, and “Please consider getting your facts from this reality and not the false one you invent in your imagination” Without elaborating what you mean by that, the only way I can take it is if you believe me to have delusions. When you say stuff like: “You have no idea what genocide means” you accuse me of ignorance, despite the fact that earlier I made it clear what I meant by it, and even cited the genocide convention. The only way I can take this is that you believe me to be dumb (which may be true TBH). You didn’t attack my arguments, rather you assumed my worldview to be delusional or ignorant and ordered me to stop doing that. You also accused me of anti-semitism elsewhere, but I choice not to engage with that.