> And in the end I haven't seen a significant decrease of people to manage stuff in the cloud. This is a really important point. Virtually every customer that

> And in the end I haven't seen a significant decrease of people to manage stuff in the cloud. This is a really important point. Virtually every customer that I work with who runs in the cloud has a platform group focused on cloud operation. They don't rack gear any more. Instead they do things like setting up IAM consistently that are beyond mortal ken. (Well mine, anyway.)