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well in that case, the israelis would be doing a terrible job as gaza in terms of pop growth is exploding (no pun intended). Their population pyramids IS a pyr

well in that case, the israelis would be doing a terrible job as gaza in terms of pop growth is exploding (no pun intended). Their population pyramids IS a pyramid. There are definetely war crimes - you cannot avoid it, especially when both sides are mortal enemies for generations and palestines tactics dont shy away from using civilians, fighting in civilian clothes etc. Its a perfect environment for hate crimes.

runarberg 3y ago
This is not how any genocide in history has unfolded. States usually don’t just all of a sudden use any means necessary kill every person belonging to a group (the Rwandan genocide may be the exception here). Even the holocaust didn’t start with Nazis killing every Jew on sight, but rather escalated starting with apartheid and slowly escalating over a decade to industrialized killing. There usually isn’t a coherent plan to conduct a genocide with the most efficient means available, but rather incitement, dehumanization, escalation and reaction. Israel is conducting a genocide but they are being careful while doing so. They could, in theory, drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza, but doing so would certainly loose them any sympathy. Their current conduct of slowly escalating, systemic killing and preventing aid has not cost them the support of the American government. Most likely they aim to keep it that way. That said, a “perfect environment for hate crimes” does not excuse a genocide, nor other crimes for that matter. If it did we could excuse Hamas’ conduct on Oct 7 as well. Hate crimes ought to be prevented or prosecuted regardless of the environment they were committed in. This is why it is important to call Israel’s crimes what they are, a genocide.
- nolongerthere 3y ago
  The nazis literally did kill many jews on sight, what are you talking about? You've been bleating about a genocide for 75 years and yet over those 75 the population you claim is being destroy has had absolutely explosive growth. You have no idea what genocide means, and continuing to claim that is slanderous and disrespectful!
  - runarberg 3y ago
    The Gaza Genocide did not begin in 1948. The Gaza genocide started on Oct 7 2023. The Nakba refers to ethnic cleansing, not genocide. So the Genocide has been ongoing for 6 months, while ethnic cleansing campaign following occupation and apartheid has been ongoing for 76 years. This why people say something like: “It’s been 194 days and 76 years”, the former timespan is referring to the genocide while the latter the ethnic cleansing campaign. Also to clarify, I was stating that the Nazis didn’t start their genocide by killing every Jewish person on sight, the atrocities gradually got worse over time. By the time of the 1936 Berlin Olympics the atrocities were well known and it was known what the Nazis wanted to do with Jewish people. Even still the international community failed to boycott the Olympics giving the Nazis reassurance that they could get away with the atrocities up until then, an possibly more. So far the genocide in Gaza has the potential to be worse, and the international community consistently fails to stop it. Presumably, this is the goal of the Zionist government in Israel.
    - nolongerthere 3y ago
      Nothing you've said is true as usual. Please stop spreading falsehoods. You're not tricking anyone, How did the Gaza Genocide start on Oct 7 2023 when Hamas started the war then with the express intent of genociding all Jews? At this point I have to assume you're just gaslighting.
    - raxxorraxor 3y ago
      Israel was attacked on October 7. You are perverting facts and drift into a realm of fantasy.

runarberg 3y ago

This is not how any genocide in history has unfolded. States usually don’t just all of a sudden use any means necessary kill every person belonging to a group (the Rwandan genocide may be the exception here). Even the holocaust didn’t start with Nazis killing every Jew on sight, but rather escalated starting with apartheid and slowly escalating over a decade to industrialized killing. There usually isn’t a coherent plan to conduct a genocide with the most efficient means available, but rather incitement, dehumanization, escalation and reaction. Israel is conducting a genocide but they are being careful while doing so. They could, in theory, drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza, but doing so would certainly loose them any sympathy. Their current conduct of slowly escalating, systemic killing and preventing aid has not cost them the support of the American government. Most likely they aim to keep it that way. That said, a “perfect environment for hate crimes” does not excuse a genocide, nor other crimes for that matter. If it did we could excuse Hamas’ conduct on Oct 7 as well. Hate crimes ought to be prevented or prosecuted regardless of the environment they were committed in. This is why it is important to call Israel’s crimes what they are, a genocide.

nolongerthere 3y ago
The nazis literally did kill many jews on sight, what are you talking about? You've been bleating about a genocide for 75 years and yet over those 75 the population you claim is being destroy has had absolutely explosive growth. You have no idea what genocide means, and continuing to claim that is slanderous and disrespectful!
- runarberg 3y ago
  The Gaza Genocide did not begin in 1948. The Gaza genocide started on Oct 7 2023. The Nakba refers to ethnic cleansing, not genocide. So the Genocide has been ongoing for 6 months, while ethnic cleansing campaign following occupation and apartheid has been ongoing for 76 years. This why people say something like: “It’s been 194 days and 76 years”, the former timespan is referring to the genocide while the latter the ethnic cleansing campaign. Also to clarify, I was stating that the Nazis didn’t start their genocide by killing every Jewish person on sight, the atrocities gradually got worse over time. By the time of the 1936 Berlin Olympics the atrocities were well known and it was known what the Nazis wanted to do with Jewish people. Even still the international community failed to boycott the Olympics giving the Nazis reassurance that they could get away with the atrocities up until then, an possibly more. So far the genocide in Gaza has the potential to be worse, and the international community consistently fails to stop it. Presumably, this is the goal of the Zionist government in Israel.
  - nolongerthere 3y ago
    Nothing you've said is true as usual. Please stop spreading falsehoods. You're not tricking anyone, How did the Gaza Genocide start on Oct 7 2023 when Hamas started the war then with the express intent of genociding all Jews? At this point I have to assume you're just gaslighting.
  - raxxorraxor 3y ago
    Israel was attacked on October 7. You are perverting facts and drift into a realm of fantasy.