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Some regulation would help - like forbidding charging station to requiring apps or any form of payment that's not available without internet connection or exter

Some regulation would help - like forbidding charging station to requiring apps or any form of payment that's not available without internet connection or external equipment.

atonse 3y ago
I can totally understand the "not required to install an app" but just so I'm clear, are you advocating for requiring charging stations to accept cash? Or just purchase without an app? Do we know if this is even a legitimate issue facing a lot of people? Meaning, is this an accessibility issue or a privacy issue? Because from my understanding, smartphone access is nearly ubiquitous nowadays across all income groups. But I could be wrong.
- KptMarchewa 3y ago
  I'm advocating for the same standards that gas stations have. Cash prepayment is not necessarily most important, but just accepting CCs is minimum required thing. >Meaning, is this an accessibility issue or a privacy issue? Because from my understanding, smartphone access is nearly ubiquitous nowadays across all income groups. But I could be wrong. Access is not the biggest problem, fragmentation and giant shittyness of the apps is. And the fragmentation is an unsolvable problems.
  - NewJazz 3y ago
    I'm pretty sure any card accepting POS is going to need an internet connection.
    - Nextgrid 3y ago
      Some cards can do transactions offline. Terminals can be configured to accept this (at the expense of increased risk). However, I'm pretty sure the app-based charging stations are all internet connected anyway, so I'm not sure if this is a big deal in practice.
Nextgrid 3y ago
Hard to do when so much of the economy and people's careers is now based on "engagement" and spyware. The reason you need apps to pay at charging stations is because just like a lot of tech companies nowadays, they're not after money (or at least, not just money), they're after "engagement" and personal data.
- KptMarchewa 3y ago
  And easy way to fix the situation is to forbid this. Gas station should not track you, the same should happen for charger.

Some regulation would help - like forbidding charging station to requiring apps or any form of payment that's not available without internet connection or external equipment.

atonse 3y ago

I can totally understand the "not required to install an app" but just so I'm clear, are you advocating for requiring charging stations to accept cash? Or just purchase without an app? Do we know if this is even a legitimate issue facing a lot of people? Meaning, is this an accessibility issue or a privacy issue? Because from my understanding, smartphone access is nearly ubiquitous nowadays across all income groups. But I could be wrong.

KptMarchewa 3y ago
I'm advocating for the same standards that gas stations have. Cash prepayment is not necessarily most important, but just accepting CCs is minimum required thing. >Meaning, is this an accessibility issue or a privacy issue? Because from my understanding, smartphone access is nearly ubiquitous nowadays across all income groups. But I could be wrong. Access is not the biggest problem, fragmentation and giant shittyness of the apps is. And the fragmentation is an unsolvable problems.
- NewJazz 3y ago
  I'm pretty sure any card accepting POS is going to need an internet connection.
  - Nextgrid 3y ago
    Some cards can do transactions offline. Terminals can be configured to accept this (at the expense of increased risk). However, I'm pretty sure the app-based charging stations are all internet connected anyway, so I'm not sure if this is a big deal in practice.

Nextgrid 3y ago

Hard to do when so much of the economy and people's careers is now based on "engagement" and spyware. The reason you need apps to pay at charging stations is because just like a lot of tech companies nowadays, they're not after money (or at least, not just money), they're after "engagement" and personal data.

KptMarchewa 3y ago
And easy way to fix the situation is to forbid this. Gas station should not track you, the same should happen for charger.