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As a parent today, I often wonder if my concerns are the same as every parent of prior generations and that things will turn out just fine. But I can’t shake t

As a parent today, I often wonder if my concerns are the same as every parent of prior generations and that things will turn out just fine. But I can’t shake the thought that the impact of social media and addictive games for some kids can’t be written off as just a phase they are going through. I worry so much that they will carry the negative impacts into adulthood.

blitzar 2y ago
What impact would it have on their development, relationships and prospects if they were not exposed to all the same things as their peers?
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timdiggerm 2y ago
When considering that things in the past turned out "just fine", we should remember the concept of the Shifting Baseline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline
poszlem 2y ago
It's also worth considering whether the concerns of previous generations were really as exaggerated as we think. We might believe that things "turned out just fine" simply because this is the world we're used to. However, it's possible that we're actually heading in the wrong direction, and many of those worries were - in fact - valid.
- fragmede 2y ago
  Yes, worries like DnD is Satanic and is going to send us all to hell is - in fact - valid. Also rock music. And homosexuality.
  - poszlem 2y ago
    Be careful with fire, you risk igniting that huge strawman of yours.
    - fragmede 2y ago
      you're welcome to give specific examples you think are valid, those are the three I remember. If you can actually give ones that are, I'll concede the strawman but until you can, naw.
fragmede 2y ago
It's the false dichotomy that makes for histeria. TikTok is either on or off. the alternative, handing control of the algorithm over to the Department of Education, has never been discussed.
anonzzzies 2y ago
I think that rewarding kids to watch garbage they don’t like (or do like: it doesn’t actually matter) is a bridge too far. I cannot think of anything from the 80s-90s in my youth that would compare in any way. I mean; for adults this is pretty horrible as well, but they can decide themselves, but for kids it should be forbidden imho. This has nothing to do with being exposed to the same content as their peers (which is indeed often needed to grow up). Give them pocket money and/or chores and not this bollocks.
INTPenis 2y ago
The effect is real, every generation will feel an effect that is slightly new and relevant to their time. But if it's going to lead to the complete downfall of society and lethargic adults who cannot deal with life, I doubt it. I'm playing devil's advocate here because I truly believe that kids should not have smartphones at all. But that's because I was raised without them. And also I've seen in practice a great example of a relative who raised his first child (male) with no screens, and his second child (female) allowing screen time. The son is now 15 and the girl 9 and the difference is shocking. Most well behaved, calm, focused young man I've ever seen. Compared to a little animal who snarls at you for taking away her phone at dinner time.

blitzar 2y ago

What impact would it have on their development, relationships and prospects if they were not exposed to all the same things as their peers?

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timdiggerm 2y ago

When considering that things in the past turned out "just fine", we should remember the concept of the Shifting Baseline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline

poszlem 2y ago

It's also worth considering whether the concerns of previous generations were really as exaggerated as we think. We might believe that things "turned out just fine" simply because this is the world we're used to. However, it's possible that we're actually heading in the wrong direction, and many of those worries were - in fact - valid.

fragmede 2y ago
Yes, worries like DnD is Satanic and is going to send us all to hell is - in fact - valid. Also rock music. And homosexuality.
- poszlem 2y ago
  Be careful with fire, you risk igniting that huge strawman of yours.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    you're welcome to give specific examples you think are valid, those are the three I remember. If you can actually give ones that are, I'll concede the strawman but until you can, naw.

fragmede 2y ago

It's the false dichotomy that makes for histeria. TikTok is either on or off. the alternative, handing control of the algorithm over to the Department of Education, has never been discussed.

anonzzzies 2y ago

I think that rewarding kids to watch garbage they don’t like (or do like: it doesn’t actually matter) is a bridge too far. I cannot think of anything from the 80s-90s in my youth that would compare in any way. I mean; for adults this is pretty horrible as well, but they can decide themselves, but for kids it should be forbidden imho. This has nothing to do with being exposed to the same content as their peers (which is indeed often needed to grow up). Give them pocket money and/or chores and not this bollocks.

INTPenis 2y ago

The effect is real, every generation will feel an effect that is slightly new and relevant to their time. But if it's going to lead to the complete downfall of society and lethargic adults who cannot deal with life, I doubt it. I'm playing devil's advocate here because I truly believe that kids should not have smartphones at all. But that's because I was raised without them. And also I've seen in practice a great example of a relative who raised his first child (male) with no screens, and his second child (female) allowing screen time. The son is now 15 and the girl 9 and the difference is shocking. Most well behaved, calm, focused young man I've ever seen. Compared to a little animal who snarls at you for taking away her phone at dinner time.