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The school system seems completely antiquated. I was driving back from Switzerland to the Ruhrgebiet with some Germans and we drove past a Hauptschule in their

The school system seems completely antiquated. I was driving back from Switzerland to the Ruhrgebiet with some Germans and we drove past a Hauptschule in their home town and they pointed at it and said to me “if you go to this sort of school you are completely fucked”. Factor in the likelihood that these kids are much more likely to be non biodeutsch and it seems like institutionalised shit education for Ausländer. It’s a pity because Germany has a huge immigrant population but it’s hard to imagine a country with a culture more poorly suited for immigration. The destiny of these kids is to fill all the shitty jobs whilst the white biodeutsch get the good ones. And the school system is set up to ensure this happens. I have a phd and I work in Germany as a scientist but I guess if I had kids here they would be forced very early on at the age of ten towards the life of a baker or a bus driver or something similar. I will leave Germany, thankfully.

aszantu 2y ago
the problem to me always was that the dumb kids need more guidance and for a longer time, giving them shorter education time is probably adding to the problem. You're not completely fcked when u go to "hauptschule", you can always work to get the next best graduation. Would look like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptschulabschluss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptschulabschluss -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittlere_Reife https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittlere_Reife -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abitur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abitur -> Bachelor -> PHD But it's more work, paperwork and your parents have to be supportive and be able to push you financially and with tutoring and stuff. Someone with a wife and 2 kids and no second income won't be able to push unless they're a manager. You gotta be extremely resilient to go this path, and that's not what's being cultivated in Hauptschule. so yes, you're right. Migrant kids have it harder, but since they're like 50% of the population now, the whole system will have to change if Germany wants to keep its title as thorough, smart, engineering nation. Bein German without kids, I was fortunate, my father brought home enough to pay rent for my university. I'm not smart enough and failed my bachelor though. But without a next generation, it's all been for nothing, feels that way.

aszantu 2y ago

the problem to me always was that the dumb kids need more guidance and for a longer time, giving them shorter education time is probably adding to the problem. You're not completely fcked when u go to "hauptschule", you can always work to get the next best graduation. Would look like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptschulabschluss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptschulabschluss -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittlere_Reife https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittlere_Reife -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abitur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abitur -> Bachelor -> PHD But it's more work, paperwork and your parents have to be supportive and be able to push you financially and with tutoring and stuff. Someone with a wife and 2 kids and no second income won't be able to push unless they're a manager. You gotta be extremely resilient to go this path, and that's not what's being cultivated in Hauptschule. so yes, you're right. Migrant kids have it harder, but since they're like 50% of the population now, the whole system will have to change if Germany wants to keep its title as thorough, smart, engineering nation. Bein German without kids, I was fortunate, my father brought home enough to pay rent for my university. I'm not smart enough and failed my bachelor though. But without a next generation, it's all been for nothing, feels that way.