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Even more so, genocide makes no sense in this context, again, Israel is capable of killing many more people than it has, not only is it capable of doing so, it
by nolongerthere 2y ago
Even more so, genocide makes no sense in this context, again, Israel is capable of killing many more people than it has, not only is it capable of doing so, it could likely justify those attacks to the US and it’s allies in the short term, instead it uses very different means to attempt to kill only those who pose a direct current threat. In that context it’s pretty clear there is neither intent nor conduct.
All the Jew hating European judges in the world doesn’t change that.
Pretending the UN is some higher unbiased authority is intensely naive. The UN has shown time and again that it holds Jews and Israel to an impossible standard and the many nations that make up the UN show little regard for fairness or justice, instead they are most focused on being able to commit as many atrocities at home while pointing the fingers at those dirty Jews. In fact this ridiculous case was
only brought by the SA government as a cynical ploy to redirect attention from their own failing economy and dire political outlook. As with all things involving Jews the conspiracy is always on the other side.
Additionally, the UN gets many things totally wrong for many political reasons, e.g. it’s been totally toothless wrt the Russian/Ukraine war, it’s failed to even acknowledge china’s many well documented atrocities, so appealing to its authority as “the highest court in the world” makes it clear you’re either entirely ignorant or intentionally malicious.
- philistine 2y agoPeople can treat Jews differently. The UN can be flawed as an institution. Nations can be severely hypocrites when it comes to internal matters. All of these can be true while at the same time the Israeli system of governance can be deemed akin to a genocide.
- nolongerthere 2y agoLol, anything can be true… doesn’t mean it actually is tho, it could be true we’re living on the sun… especially if we totally redefine the meaning of “living”, “true”, and “sun”. Your comment didn’t add anything at all. I pointed out, the people making these claims have a bunch of ulterior motives that are totally at odds with them coming to a honest conclusion and you agreed and then baselessly made another claim that genocide could be happening without any further evidence.
- philistine 2y agoPeople in power having ulterior motives does not invalidate the claim that the Israeli government's policies can be classified a genocide. Or do you believe only pure angels can make judgement calls?
- nolongerthere 2y agoAgain, if the Jews' action can be classified as genocide then so can your actions, everyone is guilty of genocide simply for existing. Genocide has actual meaning and isn't simply empty rhetoric used by sophomoric college students. Making the claim doesn't make it true, it simply shows that the people making the claims are guilty of extreme hate.
- philistine 2y agoI’m North American. I own land in a city simply stolen from First Nations. No treaty, no nothing. Of course I’m complicit in a genocide.
- runarberg 2y agoMaximizing the killing of peoples belonging to the victim group is not a criteria of the Genocide under international law. You don’t need to kill as many people as you are capable before the threshold for genocide is met, far from it. Israel targets and kills a lot of people, and so far it has failed to demonstrate how the majority of them pose a threat. A good example is when al-Jazeera journalist Hamza al-Dahdouh was targeted and killed by an Israeli missile. Israel said he and his coworker were terrorists posing a direct threat to nearby soldiers. Evidence however showed that they had been covering a news story nearby and were on their way back, completely contradicting Israel’s claim. In light of the overwhelming evidence against Israel’s initial claim they simply backtracked and said it was an accident. However evidence shows that their car was indeed targeted[1]. Hamza al-Dahdouh is only one of thousands of such cases. The only reasonable explanation is that Israel targets and kills non-combatants on mass scale in an ongoing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. 1: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/10/israeli-army-appears-to-change-tack-on-strike-that-killed-gaza-journalists https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/10/israeli-army-appear...
- Gibbon1 2y agoCalling your spotters journalists doesn't provide any legal protection for them.
- runarberg 2y agoThere is no evidence Hamza al-Dahdouh and Mustafa Thuraya were “spotters”. Not even Israel claims they were “spotters”. We have records of their work, and their plan the day they were targeted, we have their employers corroborating that plan, we have visual evidence of their locations and witnesses of what they were doing that day. The evidence they were journalists doing journalism is overwhelming, to a point where Israel doesn’t even deny it anymore. Your post is slanderous and disrespectful.
- Gibbon1 2y agoWell if we're going to do this I'll start by pointing out that people that excuse Hamas's atrocities and crimes not only against Israeli Arabs and Jews but also against the people of Gaza are complicit. This constant encouraging of such things by outsiders such as yourself is why the disaster has been going on for the last 75 years. You keep telling the Palestinian's to keep up the struggle we support you. And it's just misery year after year.