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You could also ask what would happen if the group was pro-Trump, pro-life, or anti-affirmative action, all of which are positions with more support than anti-Is

You could also ask what would happen if the group was pro-Trump, pro-life, or anti-affirmative action, all of which are positions with more support than anti-Israel protests. They would also be fired. As awful as these groups are, they generally do not routinely feel entitled to disrupt their own* workspaces. I don't deny your point that a more popular position may get more lenient treatment, but I also can't remember any of these groups attempting this so boldly so seems like a moot point. edit: added "their own" for clarity

disqard 2y ago
I don't know any more details than what I've seen in public news sites. My understanding is that they disrupted office operations. That automatically allows their employer to (rightfully) claim that they broke some fundamental rules of the employee handbook, and therefore forms grounds for termination. Hypothetical: If they (say) held up the lunch line in one of the cafes ("people are starving in Gaza, no one here should eat either" or somesuch reasoning) -- would that also incur such censure? I'd wager the answer is "yes". P.S. If they had gathered in (say) a nearby park, Google would have a much weaker basis for taking such action.
- richrichie 2y ago
  My question is if the disruption was in the name of climate change, will they fire them? I bet they won’t dare.
  - habinero 2y ago
    Ahaha. Of course they would dare.
  - bawolff 2y ago
    I feel like they would. Companies usually take a dim view of employees trying to actively interfere with the company's business dealings.
tedivm 2y ago
While I see your point, I think the idea that pro-life groups aren't disrupting workplaces is very wrong. Pro-Life groups constantly protest at abortion clinics, where people absolutely do work. Sometimes they even bomb them. Again, I get your point, but that's a very bad example (unless you meant "disrupt their own workspaces") which is a bit different.
- bawolff 2y ago
  > (unless you meant "disrupt their own workspaces") From context, i think this is obviously what was meant.
- mypalmike 2y ago
  This is comparing apples to zebras. Abortion clinic workers aren't protesting abortion clinics.
- fasthands9 2y ago
  That is what I meant. An abortion clinic cannot fire you from your job at Google. And Google would not fire people from protesting at an abortion clinic, or from protesting Israel in a public space. If you got hired by an abortion clinic and realized you cannot in good conscious help perform abortions, just leave instead of playing victim. An abortion clinic would fire you if you disrupted the work of helping people receive medical care related to abortions. And Google would fire you if you disrupted the work of Google and its projects.

disqard 2y ago

I don't know any more details than what I've seen in public news sites. My understanding is that they disrupted office operations. That automatically allows their employer to (rightfully) claim that they broke some fundamental rules of the employee handbook, and therefore forms grounds for termination. Hypothetical: If they (say) held up the lunch line in one of the cafes ("people are starving in Gaza, no one here should eat either" or somesuch reasoning) -- would that also incur such censure? I'd wager the answer is "yes". P.S. If they had gathered in (say) a nearby park, Google would have a much weaker basis for taking such action.

richrichie 2y ago
My question is if the disruption was in the name of climate change, will they fire them? I bet they won’t dare.
- habinero 2y ago
  Ahaha. Of course they would dare.
- bawolff 2y ago
  I feel like they would. Companies usually take a dim view of employees trying to actively interfere with the company's business dealings.

tedivm 2y ago

While I see your point, I think the idea that pro-life groups aren't disrupting workplaces is very wrong. Pro-Life groups constantly protest at abortion clinics, where people absolutely do work. Sometimes they even bomb them. Again, I get your point, but that's a very bad example (unless you meant "disrupt their own workspaces") which is a bit different.

bawolff 2y ago
> (unless you meant "disrupt their own workspaces") From context, i think this is obviously what was meant.
mypalmike 2y ago
This is comparing apples to zebras. Abortion clinic workers aren't protesting abortion clinics.
fasthands9 2y ago
That is what I meant. An abortion clinic cannot fire you from your job at Google. And Google would not fire people from protesting at an abortion clinic, or from protesting Israel in a public space. If you got hired by an abortion clinic and realized you cannot in good conscious help perform abortions, just leave instead of playing victim. An abortion clinic would fire you if you disrupted the work of helping people receive medical care related to abortions. And Google would fire you if you disrupted the work of Google and its projects.