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There is an appropriate time and place for protests, but apparently these protesters weren't able to figure that out.

viraptor 2y ago
> “In the three years that we have been organizing against Project Nimbus, we have yet to hear from a single executive about our concerns,” the group wrote in a post on Medium. Are you sure they weren't?
- jsiepkes 2y ago
  While it would have been decent of Google to formulate a reply, in the end it's a business decision. This is not about workers rights such as pay, etc. If you don't like the direction of a company and they don't want to change (or don't care), join a company whose values align with your own.
  - dunekid 2y ago
    Well the company is not a monolithic entity, it is after all a group of people. Is it unreasonable to expect them to change a particular policy, in this case supporting genocide , could be changed from within? After all it was decided to pursue by some execs, and it is jot that hard to withdrawfrom it. It is not the core business of Google. We are not talking about Googlers protesting about the Google Ads.
    - jsiepkes 2y ago
      > Well the company is not a monolithic entity, it is after all a group of people. A group of people...in a clearly defined structure. In Google's case that structure is a hierarchy. The issue passed through this structure and a decision was made. Now even hierarchical companies often have some mechanism to make appeals based on ethics, safety, etc. but either this wasn't done or their appeals were rejected. > After all it was decided to pursue by some execs, and it is jot that hard to withdrawfrom it Mr Pichai was probably at the very least aware of a billion dollar contract I would guess. If they wanted to withdraw from it, they would have done so. > It is not the core business of Google. I think Google would like very much to succeed in the cloud. A billion dollar cloud contract will certainly help with that.

> “In the three years that we have been organizing against Project Nimbus, we have yet to hear from a single executive about our concerns,” the group wrote in a post on Medium. Are you sure they weren't?

jsiepkes 2y ago
While it would have been decent of Google to formulate a reply, in the end it's a business decision. This is not about workers rights such as pay, etc. If you don't like the direction of a company and they don't want to change (or don't care), join a company whose values align with your own.
- dunekid 2y ago
  Well the company is not a monolithic entity, it is after all a group of people. Is it unreasonable to expect them to change a particular policy, in this case supporting genocide , could be changed from within? After all it was decided to pursue by some execs, and it is jot that hard to withdrawfrom it. It is not the core business of Google. We are not talking about Googlers protesting about the Google Ads.
  - jsiepkes 2y ago
    > Well the company is not a monolithic entity, it is after all a group of people. A group of people...in a clearly defined structure. In Google's case that structure is a hierarchy. The issue passed through this structure and a decision was made. Now even hierarchical companies often have some mechanism to make appeals based on ethics, safety, etc. but either this wasn't done or their appeals were rejected. > After all it was decided to pursue by some execs, and it is jot that hard to withdrawfrom it Mr Pichai was probably at the very least aware of a billion dollar contract I would guess. If they wanted to withdraw from it, they would have done so. > It is not the core business of Google. I think Google would like very much to succeed in the cloud. A billion dollar cloud contract will certainly help with that.