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And I can't trust that site. An example: 3,129 days since Elon Musk said Teslas would have 1,000 kilometer (621 mile) range within a year or two. (9/23/201

And I can't trust that site. An example: 3,129 days since Elon Musk said Teslas would have 1,000 kilometer (621 mile) range within a year or two. (9/23/2015) "My guess is probably we could break 1,000 kilometers within a year or two. I'd say 2017 for sure." An altered quote taken out of context. Here what he actually said from the interview[1]: Q: When will we break the 1000km range mark for an electric car? M: A thousand kilometers, hmm. Well, it depends under what circumstances for a thousand kilometers. As it is, the record right now for Model S is 800 km. That is the furthest that anyone has driven a Model S... Q: So we could be close? M: Yeah, we're pretty close. Now, in order to do that they did drive at a relatively slow speed. So, you know, we're taking, I think they drove maybe at 40 or 50 km/h or something like that. But I think, my guess is probably we could break a 1000km within... a year or two? Q: Okay, so within 2016 maybe even? M: I say if you say 2017 I'd say 2017 for sure. His prediction turned out completely accurate[2]. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5vLC3Xlgc&feature=youtu.be&t=379 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5vLC3Xlgc&feature=youtu.be... 2: https://electrek.co/2017/08/04/a-tesla-model-s-100d-just-drove-670-miles-1078km-on-a-single-charge/ https://electrek.co/2017/08/04/a-tesla-model-s-100d-just-dro...

acdha 2y ago
So you think it’s “bullshit” because it accurately states his 2017 timeframe and here in 2024 the longest range model is still half that? https://www.tesla.com/model3 https://www.tesla.com/model3 One hypermiler reporting a long range under perfect conditions is not how any normal buyer is going to interpret that claim.
- Manabu-eo 2y ago
  But one hypermiler reporting a long range under perfect conditions is exactly what he described at length while making that claim. It was pretty clear to me. And that was exactly what we got in 2017. If one wants to lie by twisting what he said, what happened or putting purposefully out of context to gain clicks or drive up hate against the guy, that is another thing. You should not do that. Nowhere he said what the site or you are implying. I'm tired how people are getting radicalized because they hear absurd things ("pizzagate") and instead of doubting it they believe it and become outraged. If you actually hear people talking, they are usually much more reasonable than what they seem if you just take a few of the most negative phrases out of context. It takes a lot of effort to undo fake news. A few more examples from that website: "Rocket Fuel Solves Climate Change", an absurd extrapolation on what was probably a tweet about ISRU for Mars. And this juxtaposition that makes you think he just sold what was paid to them, when instead it is 10% of what they had bought previously if you actually follow the link: Hodl [Link] 1,120 days since Elon Musk promised to hold bitcoin instead converting it. (3/24/2021) "Bitcoin paid to Tesla will be retained as Bitcoin, not converted to fiat currency." Elon Musk in a Tweet 1,087 days since Elon Musk converted $272 million to fiat currency. (4/26/2021) As reported by Nate DiCamillo in yahoo! finance You might argue that the second move goes against the spirit of what he said in the tweet and all that, but you have to agree with me that this site is being purposefully deceitful on how it is presenting this to promote hate and radicalize more the people.
- ac29 2y ago
  Model S is 402mi (EPA range). Thats not 1000km, but its much more than half.

acdha 2y ago

So you think it’s “bullshit” because it accurately states his 2017 timeframe and here in 2024 the longest range model is still half that? https://www.tesla.com/model3 https://www.tesla.com/model3 One hypermiler reporting a long range under perfect conditions is not how any normal buyer is going to interpret that claim.

Manabu-eo 2y ago
But one hypermiler reporting a long range under perfect conditions is exactly what he described at length while making that claim. It was pretty clear to me. And that was exactly what we got in 2017. If one wants to lie by twisting what he said, what happened or putting purposefully out of context to gain clicks or drive up hate against the guy, that is another thing. You should not do that. Nowhere he said what the site or you are implying. I'm tired how people are getting radicalized because they hear absurd things ("pizzagate") and instead of doubting it they believe it and become outraged. If you actually hear people talking, they are usually much more reasonable than what they seem if you just take a few of the most negative phrases out of context. It takes a lot of effort to undo fake news. A few more examples from that website: "Rocket Fuel Solves Climate Change", an absurd extrapolation on what was probably a tweet about ISRU for Mars. And this juxtaposition that makes you think he just sold what was paid to them, when instead it is 10% of what they had bought previously if you actually follow the link: Hodl [Link] 1,120 days since Elon Musk promised to hold bitcoin instead converting it. (3/24/2021) "Bitcoin paid to Tesla will be retained as Bitcoin, not converted to fiat currency." Elon Musk in a Tweet 1,087 days since Elon Musk converted $272 million to fiat currency. (4/26/2021) As reported by Nate DiCamillo in yahoo! finance You might argue that the second move goes against the spirit of what he said in the tweet and all that, but you have to agree with me that this site is being purposefully deceitful on how it is presenting this to promote hate and radicalize more the people.
ac29 2y ago
Model S is 402mi (EPA range). Thats not 1000km, but its much more than half.