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Citations needed. These sound like wild conspiracy theories.

by 2024throwaway 2y ago

caseyy 2y ago
Citations: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/03/ftc-says-online-counseling-service-betterhelp-pushed-people-handing-over-health-information-broke https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/03/ftc-says-... https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/betterhelp-mental-health-app-faces-7-8m-ftc-fine-for-sharing-private-user-data/ https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/betterhelp-mental-health-a...
- mrWiz 2y ago
  Neither of those links demonstrate mishandling of location data collected via cell phone. They’re just regular misuse of data that would be possible even if nobody involved was carrying a phone.
  - caseyy 2y ago
    Well, I'm sure you understand that there is a broader theme here, given how central it has been to public discourse and lawmaking in the last several years. But should that not be the case, here's data collected via cell-phone that was mishandled - https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/southwest-valley/2019/07/31/jorge-luis-molina-says-avondale-police-used-google-data-wrongfully-arrest-him-murder-joe-knight/1873878001/ https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/southwest-valley/2....
    - vel0city 2y ago
      But those VHF pagers transmitted all the rest of your data in the clear unprotected, it just didn't have your location or any knowledge if you received the message.
      - caseyy 2y ago
        Well, you are right. But the message as well as the medium can be privacy-respecting. Even with encrypted messages, a lot can be extracted from metadata that is a part of the medium. These days pager tech has advanced to support public-private key encryption for messages. So the messages being in plain text is less of a concern.
sophacles 2y ago
I'm sure you're right. They'll keep our boring, unimportant location data safe. Just like they do with our financial data, or account info, and other such important information. Nothing bad ever happens when people's info is leaked like that anyway right? BTW I need to confirm some data I bought - what are your CVVs and SSN again? It's fine to post it publically here, nothing bad happens and it's already been leaked 100s of times at this point.
- 2024throwaway 2y ago
  Unironically this. I treat my SSN as public data. CVVs might as well be too, I can just dispute the charge.

Citations needed. These sound like wild conspiracy theories.

Citations: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/03/ftc-says-online-counseling-service-betterhelp-pushed-people-handing-over-health-information-broke https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/03/ftc-says-... https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/betterhelp-mental-health-app-faces-7-8m-ftc-fine-for-sharing-private-user-data/ https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/betterhelp-mental-health-a...

mrWiz 2y ago
Neither of those links demonstrate mishandling of location data collected via cell phone. They’re just regular misuse of data that would be possible even if nobody involved was carrying a phone.
- caseyy 2y ago
  Well, I'm sure you understand that there is a broader theme here, given how central it has been to public discourse and lawmaking in the last several years. But should that not be the case, here's data collected via cell-phone that was mishandled - https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/southwest-valley/2019/07/31/jorge-luis-molina-says-avondale-police-used-google-data-wrongfully-arrest-him-murder-joe-knight/1873878001/ https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/southwest-valley/2....
  - vel0city 2y ago
    But those VHF pagers transmitted all the rest of your data in the clear unprotected, it just didn't have your location or any knowledge if you received the message.
    - caseyy 2y ago
      Well, you are right. But the message as well as the medium can be privacy-respecting. Even with encrypted messages, a lot can be extracted from metadata that is a part of the medium. These days pager tech has advanced to support public-private key encryption for messages. So the messages being in plain text is less of a concern.

sophacles 2y ago

I'm sure you're right. They'll keep our boring, unimportant location data safe. Just like they do with our financial data, or account info, and other such important information. Nothing bad ever happens when people's info is leaked like that anyway right? BTW I need to confirm some data I bought - what are your CVVs and SSN again? It's fine to post it publically here, nothing bad happens and it's already been leaked 100s of times at this point.

2024throwaway 2y ago
Unironically this. I treat my SSN as public data. CVVs might as well be too, I can just dispute the charge.