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US FAA issues ground stop advisory for Alaska Airlines

13 points by rimunroe 3y ago

perihelions 3y ago
Appears to be a software issue, https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/faa-grounds-all-alaska-airlines-flights-nationwide-because-of-computer-issues/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/faa-grounds-all-al... ("FAA grounds all Alaska Airlines flights nationwide because of computer issues") - "The airline told CBS News Bay Area it experienced an issue while performing an upgrade to its system that calculates weight and balance, and a ground stop all Alaska and Horizon flights was instituted at about 7:50 a.m. PT."
- makestuff 3y ago
  Anytime I see a ground stop due to a software update it always reminds me of when Delta's data center caught on fire https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/data-center-disaster-disrupts-delta-airlines/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/data-....
- culopatin 3y ago
  Didn’t this happen recently? And was also the weight and balance calculation bug?
mikece 3y ago
Is this in any way connected with the fact that Alaska uses an all-Boeing fleet? I presume if this was the case then Southwest and half of United could have been ground-stopped as well.
- djbusby 3y ago
  No, it's a non-vehicle software issue.
uticus 3y ago
https://archive.ph/66eu7 https://archive.ph/66eu7
uticus 3y ago
Looks like advisory was lifted after about an hour
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siborg 3y ago
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- dgrin91 3y ago
  This is entirely unrelated to Boeing
olliej 3y ago
I assumed software but couldn’t work out why that would have had a long hidden issue or suddenly started. The issue was they upgraded the software and it went wrong somehow, and Alaska airlines requested the ground stop be issued. ie the FAA didn’t find something wrong, rather AA did (no obvious details - was the upgrade taking longer than expected or was the result going wrong somehow?). Anyway I assume there’s contract rules that make delaying due to a “ground stop” from the FAA better than just a 100% internally driven delay?

13 points by rimunroe 3y ago

Appears to be a software issue, https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/faa-grounds-all-alaska-airlines-flights-nationwide-because-of-computer-issues/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/faa-grounds-all-al... ("FAA grounds all Alaska Airlines flights nationwide because of computer issues") - "The airline told CBS News Bay Area it experienced an issue while performing an upgrade to its system that calculates weight and balance, and a ground stop all Alaska and Horizon flights was instituted at about 7:50 a.m. PT."

makestuff 3y ago
Anytime I see a ground stop due to a software update it always reminds me of when Delta's data center caught on fire https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/data-center-disaster-disrupts-delta-airlines/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/data-....
culopatin 3y ago
Didn’t this happen recently? And was also the weight and balance calculation bug?

mikece 3y ago

Is this in any way connected with the fact that Alaska uses an all-Boeing fleet? I presume if this was the case then Southwest and half of United could have been ground-stopped as well.

djbusby 3y ago
No, it's a non-vehicle software issue.

uticus 3y ago

https://archive.ph/66eu7 https://archive.ph/66eu7

uticus 3y ago

Looks like advisory was lifted after about an hour

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siborg 3y ago

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dgrin91 3y ago
This is entirely unrelated to Boeing

olliej 3y ago

I assumed software but couldn’t work out why that would have had a long hidden issue or suddenly started. The issue was they upgraded the software and it went wrong somehow, and Alaska airlines requested the ground stop be issued. ie the FAA didn’t find something wrong, rather AA did (no obvious details - was the upgrade taking longer than expected or was the result going wrong somehow?). Anyway I assume there’s contract rules that make delaying due to a “ground stop” from the FAA better than just a 100% internally driven delay?