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> At the end of the day, we'll submit to panopticon censorship because most of us _want_ panopticon censorship. This is a pretty big claim that I feel bears s
by squigz 3y ago
> At the end of the day, we'll submit to panopticon censorship because most of us _want_ panopticon censorship.
This is a pretty big claim that I feel bears some explanation as to why you feel that way
- chrismarlow9 3y agoI don't have any hard evidence but anecdotally I can say that when Snowden, Cambridge Analytica, and really anything else in this space happens nobody I talk to outside of tech workers really cares. Most responses I get are jokes along the line of "of you mean they'll see the $15 in my bank account and offer to pay my electric?".
- squigz 3y agoMany people have slightly more pressing things to worry about - such as having $15 in their bank account
- chrismarlow9 3y agoI'm confused are you summarizing my comment?
- squigz 3y agoNo - but my impression was that you were attributing this to the theory GP was referring to and to which I replied.
- chrismarlow9 3y agoI see. Sorry the AI world had me paranoid for a second.
- ctrw 3y agoPedophiles. Everyone hates the enough to justify anything up to and including public executions.
- squigz 3y agoI... what... are you even talking about?
- ctrw 3y agoWhy people want more censorship and surveillance.
- squigz 3y agoYou think people want more censorship and surveillance because they're worried about pedophiles?
- ctrw 3y agoThink of the children has been a rallying cry for this since the 90s.
- jasonlotito 3y agoIt comes back to the argument: "Why are you opposed to this? Do you have something to hide?" It's easy to paint this as an easy way to catch pedophiles. It doesn't matter if this is actually true or if these arguments really hold up, by they are easy quips that can be thrown out that aren't easily dismissed with an as easy to reply quip. Basically, the position comes down to: do you want to stop pedophiles, or do you want to make it easier for them to hide? And yes, you can rationalize all day long about how that's not accurate and this and that, but then your arguing that most people are willing to sift through al the data instead of just going with something that at first glance seems reasonable.
- venatiodecorus 3y agoChildren's safety online has been an excuse for excessive surveillance for a long time. Not so long ago Apple was going to scan every file on your device for this reason.