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The solution to that is to make the driver responsible for cleaning his bus, and also to give him the right to eject people that doesn't follow the rules.
by yxhuvud 14y ago
The solution to that is to make the driver responsible for cleaning his bus, and also to give him the right to eject people that doesn't follow the rules.
- asparagui 14y ago...and then when the driver of $ethnicityA kicks off a passenger of $ethnicityB, there's a lawsuit and we're back to square one.
- borism 14y agowow, seriously? are you by chance a congressman or lawmaker of some sorts?
- yxhuvud 14y agoNo, but I live in a country where this is how it works. Drivers here in sweden are responsible for cleaning the bus during the day (with a more thorough cleaning at the garage that the driver isn't responsible for, afaik), and he has enough authority to eject people off the bus if they are violating rules, or to not let them on if they would violate rules.
- borism 14y agoI like Sweden. But this has to be one of the most bureaucratic approaches to solving the problem. And it's ripe for abuse.
- pavel_lishin 14y agoAs I understand it, aside from the cleaning, it's the same in America. But if a driver pulled over in the middle of rush hour traffic to kick someone off a bus because they put down an empty can of soda, they'd be torn to shreds before they made it back to the driver's seat.
- afterburner 14y ago"they'd be torn to shreds" Where are you taking buses that the passengers are so rage-filled?
- pavel_lishin 14y agoNew York City.
- yardie 14y agoDrivers are not conductors and I doing one job is hard enough, now you think they should have 3? It's probably cheaper to have a trashcan onboard than an armed driver. Yes, when you threaten people with ejection sometimes they threaten you right back.
- yxhuvud 14y agoHuh? Drivers are gatekeepers that let people onto the bus and validate that the people that enter the bus have tickets. If people don't respect what the driver says, the driver should stop the bus, and call security and then not move until the issue is resolved. There should be no tolerance at all for people that threatens the driver.
- yardie 14y agoThe driver isn't a gatekeeper or tollbooth collector. They stop, you pay your fare. You don't pay the fare they aren't going to argue with you, just pull off to the next stop. Because the bus driver has a schedule to keep and if he has to stop the bus for every minor infraction (and eating on the bus is very far down that list) than the schedule becomes unreliable, people stop taking the bus, and then revenue drops. And all of this could have been avoided with a trashcan on the bus. If you've watched anything on youtube you'll see that people escalate a situation for some of the stupidest things. The world is full of crazy people and they drive or take the bus too.
- afterburner 14y ago"You don't pay the fare they aren't going to argue with you" Where does that happen?
- tedunangst 14y agoI see it all the time in a bunch of cities. The driver isn't going to chase you to the back of the bus if you walk by him. I've had drivers tell me to just go ahead when I didn't have the right amount of change ready.