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It may be a good resource, but as someone living in the EU, I am "protected" from using all the shiny new AI tools to increase my productivity. And then they wo

It may be a good resource, but as someone living in the EU, I am "protected" from using all the shiny new AI tools to increase my productivity. And then they wonder why the EU is so behind in innovation and startups.

Tenoke 2y ago
You can use gpt4 which is at ~the same level freely in the EU, and you can use claude via other services.
lambdaba 2y ago
Get a virtual card from usunlocked.com, and choose "international" at the phone verification prompt. It makes no sense to just wait, as this situation is likely to go on for a while until the EU realizes the harm that's being done.
syndicatedjelly 2y ago
> I am "protected" from using all the shiny new AI tools to increase my productivity. Can you elaborate? What’s happening in Europe that is “protecting” you from AI? America is clamoring for protections, maybe they should avoid whatever mistakes have been made in Europe.
- visarga 2y ago
  They are open for business in Namibia though, but not in EU and Canada. It'a like when Meta stopped carrying news from Spain.
visarga 2y ago
Claude's lawyers should find a way because they are lagging all other providers in this department. It's such a pity to close the model to a large number of countries. They probably expect to get sued for copyright infringement or something.
- Keyframe 2y ago
  They went overboard a bit. I noticed yesterday they turned up the knob a bit further even. I gave it some lyrics (made by ChatGPT!) and asked it to rephrase certain things. It didn't want to comply because of possibility of copyright infringement. It didn't budge even with a prompt stating it's not copyrighted. They set themselves on a march to death that way and I can't blame them.
  - visarga 2y ago
    I got a "Content Filtered" error parsing a receipt on which was a product titled "Damen Sportbekleidung" (Women's sportswear), seems chatGPT is not much smarter. "sexual":{"filtered":true,"severity":"medium"}
  - mistrial9 2y ago
    sure agree - but it is a "march to compliance" .. to creative and free-thinking people, this is like Death.. but not the same. The leadership at Anthropic have made it very clear that they intend to partner with Amazon and other ultra-legal corporate aggressors.. to take and run the corporate AI services space.. and comply with every legal ruling.. (no mention in the public about Defense work?.. Mr Schmidt with Schmidt Futures has shown the way there) Anthropic has the playing field to build an empire in the classical sense
joelanman 2y ago
'protected' how?
zilti 2y ago
They don't increase your productivity any more than non-AI tools do. At most they make you feel as if. But you are probably just looking for a scapegoat anyways.
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jwr 2y ago
Just sign up and use the developer console. It works just fine in the EU.
- kkzz99 2y ago
  You can't add payment methods if you're in the EU.
  - Stagnant 2y ago
    Yes you can, I had no problems adding balance with a credit card issued in Finland. No need for a VPN or anything. Been using the API for three weeks now.
  - jwr 2y ago
    I did.
master-lincoln 2y ago
What makes you think so? Isn't it more "AI" providers being afraid of legal consequences (e.g. due to copyright or false output), so they protect themselves by not offering certain things in the EU?
null_point 2y ago
Are you able to access Claude 3 via AWS Bedrock or GCP Vertex AI? I haven't used Vertex AI, but I know that several US regions have Claude 3 access through Bedrock.
severine 2y ago
Try this, works from Spain: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=eu&ia=chat# https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=eu&ia=chat#

Tenoke 2y ago

You can use gpt4 which is at ~the same level freely in the EU, and you can use claude via other services.

lambdaba 2y ago

Get a virtual card from usunlocked.com, and choose "international" at the phone verification prompt. It makes no sense to just wait, as this situation is likely to go on for a while until the EU realizes the harm that's being done.

syndicatedjelly 2y ago

> I am "protected" from using all the shiny new AI tools to increase my productivity. Can you elaborate? What’s happening in Europe that is “protecting” you from AI? America is clamoring for protections, maybe they should avoid whatever mistakes have been made in Europe.

visarga 2y ago
They are open for business in Namibia though, but not in EU and Canada. It'a like when Meta stopped carrying news from Spain.

visarga 2y ago

Claude's lawyers should find a way because they are lagging all other providers in this department. It's such a pity to close the model to a large number of countries. They probably expect to get sued for copyright infringement or something.

Keyframe 2y ago
They went overboard a bit. I noticed yesterday they turned up the knob a bit further even. I gave it some lyrics (made by ChatGPT!) and asked it to rephrase certain things. It didn't want to comply because of possibility of copyright infringement. It didn't budge even with a prompt stating it's not copyrighted. They set themselves on a march to death that way and I can't blame them.
- visarga 2y ago
  I got a "Content Filtered" error parsing a receipt on which was a product titled "Damen Sportbekleidung" (Women's sportswear), seems chatGPT is not much smarter. "sexual":{"filtered":true,"severity":"medium"}
- mistrial9 2y ago
  sure agree - but it is a "march to compliance" .. to creative and free-thinking people, this is like Death.. but not the same. The leadership at Anthropic have made it very clear that they intend to partner with Amazon and other ultra-legal corporate aggressors.. to take and run the corporate AI services space.. and comply with every legal ruling.. (no mention in the public about Defense work?.. Mr Schmidt with Schmidt Futures has shown the way there) Anthropic has the playing field to build an empire in the classical sense

joelanman 2y ago

'protected' how?

zilti 2y ago

They don't increase your productivity any more than non-AI tools do. At most they make you feel as if. But you are probably just looking for a scapegoat anyways.

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jwr 2y ago

Just sign up and use the developer console. It works just fine in the EU.

kkzz99 2y ago
You can't add payment methods if you're in the EU.
- Stagnant 2y ago
  Yes you can, I had no problems adding balance with a credit card issued in Finland. No need for a VPN or anything. Been using the API for three weeks now.
- jwr 2y ago
  I did.

master-lincoln 2y ago

What makes you think so? Isn't it more "AI" providers being afraid of legal consequences (e.g. due to copyright or false output), so they protect themselves by not offering certain things in the EU?

null_point 2y ago

Are you able to access Claude 3 via AWS Bedrock or GCP Vertex AI? I haven't used Vertex AI, but I know that several US regions have Claude 3 access through Bedrock.

severine 2y ago

Try this, works from Spain: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=eu&ia=chat# https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=eu&ia=chat#