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Tesla has always been a luxury brand, which means that depending on the situation people can easily be priced out of those cars. >this is the right time to end

Tesla has always been a luxury brand, which means that depending on the situation people can easily be priced out of those cars. >this is the right time to end them I mean it did give a boost to ICE sales and make companies reconsider their jump away from those.

ben_w 3y ago
> Tesla has always been a luxury brand I disagree. While they have a sticker price implying luxury, they justify the price on the grounds of electricity being cheaper than petrol and diesel, not on build quality. > I mean it did give a boost to ICE sales and make companies reconsider their jump away from those. Always would in the short term, but the main cost and supply limit is batteries, and supply is now high enough (and cost low enough) that governments are better off just mandating the change rather than subsidising it; there's a few examples around the world of governments subsidising petrol, with the obvious results — everyone has backed the subsidy into their lives, and it would be political suicide to remove even in dictatorships. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidies_in_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidies_in_Iran
- constantcrying 3y ago
  >While they have a sticker price implying luxury, they justify the price on the grounds of electricity being cheaper than petrol and diesel, not on build quality. Yes, certainly Tesla isn't known for build quality. But they don't even try to enter the low cost or budget EV market. High sticker prices for bad cars screams failed luxury to me.
  - dzhiurgis 3y ago
    They are premium, not a luxury. Never was a luxury. As for competition in USA - name some cars that are competitive with Model 3. In AU/NZ we do have quite a bit Chinese cars that are about 30% cheaper than Teslas, albeit much smaller and has less features, so they really compete against other small ICE vehicles.

ben_w 3y ago

> Tesla has always been a luxury brand I disagree. While they have a sticker price implying luxury, they justify the price on the grounds of electricity being cheaper than petrol and diesel, not on build quality. > I mean it did give a boost to ICE sales and make companies reconsider their jump away from those. Always would in the short term, but the main cost and supply limit is batteries, and supply is now high enough (and cost low enough) that governments are better off just mandating the change rather than subsidising it; there's a few examples around the world of governments subsidising petrol, with the obvious results — everyone has backed the subsidy into their lives, and it would be political suicide to remove even in dictatorships. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidies_in_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidies_in_Iran

constantcrying 3y ago
>While they have a sticker price implying luxury, they justify the price on the grounds of electricity being cheaper than petrol and diesel, not on build quality. Yes, certainly Tesla isn't known for build quality. But they don't even try to enter the low cost or budget EV market. High sticker prices for bad cars screams failed luxury to me.
- dzhiurgis 3y ago
  They are premium, not a luxury. Never was a luxury. As for competition in USA - name some cars that are competitive with Model 3. In AU/NZ we do have quite a bit Chinese cars that are about 30% cheaper than Teslas, albeit much smaller and has less features, so they really compete against other small ICE vehicles.