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> If other people forward it, they should be charged It’s more complicated than that. Due to a new law in Germany, a teacher getting to know that these images

> If other people forward it, they should be charged It’s more complicated than that. Due to a new law in Germany, a teacher getting to know that these images are floating around and forwarding them to the respective parent could be charged for distributing child porn.

DoreenMichele 3y ago
I'm actually ok with that. I see no reason why the teacher can't simply advise the parent this is happening without forwarding nudes of their teen to the parent. I don't actually want to see my sons naked, thanks. They hit puberty, suddenly discovered the concept of privacy and I have no idea what their private parts look like.
- jpsouth 3y ago
  Strong agree on the advising of such matters, as for forwarding, how the hell would a teacher have access to the image to forward to the parents? That’s an insane overreach which could easily lead to abuse, they shouldn’t be accessing children’s phones, especially under the premise of ‘I need that image for safeguarding purposes’ - absolutely fucking not.
  - marci 3y ago
    > how the hell would a teacher have access to the image to forward to the parents? By accident? The teacher and the and the other teen have the same first or last name, or the next one in the contact list, or the autofill rearranged just before clicking, or just one missclick... there are so many ways it could have happened.
    - jpsouth 3y ago
      Then report it to the police, don’t forward a naked image of someone’s child to them? Not only is it likely distribution of CP, it’s also an insane thing to do. As Doreen said, she doesn’t want to see her lads nudes. I’m pretty sure my mother doesn’t want to see my knob either, who in their right mind would forward that to anywhere but law enforcement? Not to mention your absolute stretch of a scenario. Do kids typically have their teachers phone numbers in their contacts? Have them added on Facebook? Follow them on Insta? These are all genuine safeguarding issues in themselves, imo (granted I haven’t been in school for 10-15 years). I feel you’re being disingenuous here.
      - atq2119 3y ago
        I don't think it's insane for a teacher to forward evidence of problematic stuff happening with a kid to the kid's parents. After all, many parents think their kids are angels who can do no wrong. Granted, in this case I agree that it's better judgment not to forward the picture for all the reasons you've mentioned - but calling it insane is a bit much.
        OJFord 3y ago
        If I was a teacher and inadvertently ended up with it somehow, I think I would be worried about the accusation so absolutely wouldn't go to the parents before taking some kind of advice or at least telling my superiors/union/law enforcement just to protect myself.
        jpsouth 3y ago
        I don’t understand how the other commenters don’t see this! Immediately go to law enforcement and let them deal with it, forwarding to ANYONE is the wrong thing to do, legally and morally, imo.
        pkaeding 3y ago
        If you were a teacher, you would also have received mandatory-reporter training, so there would be even less gray area as to what to do next. But your intuition is pretty much spot-on with the training I have received.
        DoreenMichele 3y ago
        I was molested as a child, so out of vested personal interest I've read a lot of research over the years. If you're a teacher, it would be wise to assume the parents may be in some way part of the problem. If you're a teacher coming up with excuses to share nudes of your students with other people, you are at risk of being investigated very seriously as a potential child molester or distributor of child porn. This is a minefield for a teacher and I don't think it's really a stretch to say it's "insane" or "extremely stupid" or other similarly strong language. It has bad idea written all over it in blinking neon letters.

DoreenMichele 3y ago

I'm actually ok with that. I see no reason why the teacher can't simply advise the parent this is happening without forwarding nudes of their teen to the parent. I don't actually want to see my sons naked, thanks. They hit puberty, suddenly discovered the concept of privacy and I have no idea what their private parts look like.

jpsouth 3y ago
Strong agree on the advising of such matters, as for forwarding, how the hell would a teacher have access to the image to forward to the parents? That’s an insane overreach which could easily lead to abuse, they shouldn’t be accessing children’s phones, especially under the premise of ‘I need that image for safeguarding purposes’ - absolutely fucking not.
- marci 3y ago
  > how the hell would a teacher have access to the image to forward to the parents? By accident? The teacher and the and the other teen have the same first or last name, or the next one in the contact list, or the autofill rearranged just before clicking, or just one missclick... there are so many ways it could have happened.
  - jpsouth 3y ago
    Then report it to the police, don’t forward a naked image of someone’s child to them? Not only is it likely distribution of CP, it’s also an insane thing to do. As Doreen said, she doesn’t want to see her lads nudes. I’m pretty sure my mother doesn’t want to see my knob either, who in their right mind would forward that to anywhere but law enforcement? Not to mention your absolute stretch of a scenario. Do kids typically have their teachers phone numbers in their contacts? Have them added on Facebook? Follow them on Insta? These are all genuine safeguarding issues in themselves, imo (granted I haven’t been in school for 10-15 years). I feel you’re being disingenuous here.
    - atq2119 3y ago
      I don't think it's insane for a teacher to forward evidence of problematic stuff happening with a kid to the kid's parents. After all, many parents think their kids are angels who can do no wrong. Granted, in this case I agree that it's better judgment not to forward the picture for all the reasons you've mentioned - but calling it insane is a bit much.
      - OJFord 3y ago
        If I was a teacher and inadvertently ended up with it somehow, I think I would be worried about the accusation so absolutely wouldn't go to the parents before taking some kind of advice or at least telling my superiors/union/law enforcement just to protect myself.
        jpsouth 3y ago
        I don’t understand how the other commenters don’t see this! Immediately go to law enforcement and let them deal with it, forwarding to ANYONE is the wrong thing to do, legally and morally, imo.
        pkaeding 3y ago
        If you were a teacher, you would also have received mandatory-reporter training, so there would be even less gray area as to what to do next. But your intuition is pretty much spot-on with the training I have received.
      - DoreenMichele 3y ago
        I was molested as a child, so out of vested personal interest I've read a lot of research over the years. If you're a teacher, it would be wise to assume the parents may be in some way part of the problem. If you're a teacher coming up with excuses to share nudes of your students with other people, you are at risk of being investigated very seriously as a potential child molester or distributor of child porn. This is a minefield for a teacher and I don't think it's really a stretch to say it's "insane" or "extremely stupid" or other similarly strong language. It has bad idea written all over it in blinking neon letters.