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In the beginning Firefox was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and was widely regarded as a bad move.

vsnf 2y ago
What gets me is how every minor quirk or fault of FF makes people, despite knowing of and ostensibly being against the chrome monopoly, throw their hands up and declare that they need to go back to chrome.
- maleldil 2y ago
  It surprises me how many people here can be extremely critical of Firefox/Mozilla and claim that Chrome-based browsers are better when they're _so much worse_. I'm not saying that Mozilla is infallible - they're definitely not - but for all their questionable decisions, they're still the best player in the browser market and the only one fighting for the free web. Do I wish Mozilla were better at managing Firefox? Of course. Is their lacklustre management enough for me to change to Google's almost monopoly? Hell no.
  - slow_numbnut 2y ago
    Proof, meet pudding: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf Mozilla hasn't been a contender for, let alone are, the best player in the browser market for a long time. They often willingly trade their users' best interests with abject nonsense and gaslight them when they complain. I know this might be an extreme position to take, but if Mozilla truly wanted the best for internet users, it should dissolve and deprecate their browser. Their death would leave behind a large clearing for other projects that actually put their users first. I use Brave now and I hate it, but at least they seem to actually care about my privacy.
    - beretguy 2y ago
      Check out librewolf - Firefox with with all “spy” stuff disabled https://librewolf.net/ https://librewolf.net/
      - zipping1549 2y ago
        I was also not-much-satisfied user of Brave but ever since I found Librewolf I never looked back.
johnchristopher 2y ago
Ooooh, that quote finally clicked for me !

vsnf 2y ago

What gets me is how every minor quirk or fault of FF makes people, despite knowing of and ostensibly being against the chrome monopoly, throw their hands up and declare that they need to go back to chrome.

maleldil 2y ago
It surprises me how many people here can be extremely critical of Firefox/Mozilla and claim that Chrome-based browsers are better when they're _so much worse_. I'm not saying that Mozilla is infallible - they're definitely not - but for all their questionable decisions, they're still the best player in the browser market and the only one fighting for the free web. Do I wish Mozilla were better at managing Firefox? Of course. Is their lacklustre management enough for me to change to Google's almost monopoly? Hell no.
- slow_numbnut 2y ago
  Proof, meet pudding: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf Mozilla hasn't been a contender for, let alone are, the best player in the browser market for a long time. They often willingly trade their users' best interests with abject nonsense and gaslight them when they complain. I know this might be an extreme position to take, but if Mozilla truly wanted the best for internet users, it should dissolve and deprecate their browser. Their death would leave behind a large clearing for other projects that actually put their users first. I use Brave now and I hate it, but at least they seem to actually care about my privacy.
  - beretguy 2y ago
    Check out librewolf - Firefox with with all “spy” stuff disabled https://librewolf.net/ https://librewolf.net/
    - zipping1549 2y ago
      I was also not-much-satisfied user of Brave but ever since I found Librewolf I never looked back.

johnchristopher 2y ago

Ooooh, that quote finally clicked for me !