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Gaddafi’s Libya was a state that put suitcase bombs on Western passenger airplanes just for kicks (270 innocent people dead in Scotland in 1988). Not even Nort

by pavlov 3y ago

Gaddafi’s Libya was a state that put suitcase bombs on Western passenger airplanes just for kicks (270 innocent people dead in Scotland in 1988). Not even North Korea does that kind of shit. Reconciling was a pipe dream.

istultus 3y ago
This case is a true unknown. There is an open question as to who carried out the bombing, with multiple intelligence services blaming Syria. the US decided to blame Gaddafi though, and he was happy to take the blame as it plays well to the "Arab street." The trials resulting from the bombing are considered show trials by some... just an unknown...
- clarionbell 3y ago
  It was not an isolated incident. Gaddafi had it coming. And his regime too.
lostlogin 3y ago
Yeah, at least the US had the decency to use anti-aircraft missiles when it shot down an airliner. It’s all about being honourable. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
- echoangle 3y ago
  Do you not see the difference between a suitcase bomb on an airliner and an accidental shootdown?
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    You see negligence of that magnitude as just an accident? And if so, accidents of that magnitude are ok but suitcase bombings aren’t?
    - echoangle 3y ago
      It’s not ok, but surely it is much less bad to be negligent than to do something on purpose, right?
      - lostlogin 3y ago
        In general, yes. But this shoot down had so much going on, it was for all intents and purposes, intentional. The level of aggression shown by that captain, the violations of territorial waters ans deviations from standard practice. He attacked everything that moved and the climate in which his behaviour was tolerated is also a factor. He wanted to shoot a plane down. His colleagues had given him a nickname and his superiors had concerns about the recklessness. The final settlements reflects the indefensible behaviour.

by pavlov 3y ago

istultus 3y ago

This case is a true unknown. There is an open question as to who carried out the bombing, with multiple intelligence services blaming Syria. the US decided to blame Gaddafi though, and he was happy to take the blame as it plays well to the "Arab street." The trials resulting from the bombing are considered show trials by some... just an unknown...

clarionbell 3y ago
It was not an isolated incident. Gaddafi had it coming. And his regime too.

lostlogin 3y ago

Yeah, at least the US had the decency to use anti-aircraft missiles when it shot down an airliner. It’s all about being honourable. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

echoangle 3y ago
Do you not see the difference between a suitcase bomb on an airliner and an accidental shootdown?
- lostlogin 3y ago
  You see negligence of that magnitude as just an accident? And if so, accidents of that magnitude are ok but suitcase bombings aren’t?
  - echoangle 3y ago
    It’s not ok, but surely it is much less bad to be negligent than to do something on purpose, right?
    - lostlogin 3y ago
      In general, yes. But this shoot down had so much going on, it was for all intents and purposes, intentional. The level of aggression shown by that captain, the violations of territorial waters ans deviations from standard practice. He attacked everything that moved and the climate in which his behaviour was tolerated is also a factor. He wanted to shoot a plane down. His colleagues had given him a nickname and his superiors had concerns about the recklessness. The final settlements reflects the indefensible behaviour.