4 ms·

Looking at this from outside the USA, the emphasis that you place on the USA's FDA in calling the shots seems parochial and misplaced. And a bit conspiratorial

Looking at this from outside the USA, the emphasis that you place on the USA's FDA in calling the shots seems parochial and misplaced. And a bit conspiratorial. I do not take your claim of "zero bias" seriously while you make comments about "covid vaccine injured and damaged people" - sic. I do not take your claims about "bias towards non-intervention" seriously when you cannot mention the far higher incidence of heart issues etc that results from deliberate withholding of vaccinations. > ensure that there are always skeptics on approval boards. I think that the issue is still that there is more than one definition of "skeptics" and as said above, the anti-vaxxer ideologues simply do not think things through well enough to be of any benefit. See your non-serious claims above.

yonaguska 3y ago
I'm glad you're able to handily dismiss my arguments, because my lived experiences are non-serious. My formerly very active friends in their late twenties/early thirties that developed POTS after vaccination, not after contracting covid, they simply did not think things through enough to make the right conclusions about their experiences.
- hedora 3y ago
  It's hard to confirm they didn't contract covid or one of the other similar things that popped up during the "tripledemic" after the lockdown started to lift, especially since it sounds like a cluster of people that might have caught something strange from each other and that also report a rare side effect. FWIW, I had some issues that showed up after getting not-covid. They seem to have gone away after a few months of cardio workouts; hope your friends recover.
  - yonaguska 3y ago
    All instances of POTS showed up across friends with no overlap, on different ends of the country. The several people that came down with bells palsy- also not in overlapping groups. The latter is associated with the covid shots, the former, not as much, as it's also suspected to occur after covid infection as well, though it's hard to trust the statistics. My friends that suspected the vaccine as the culprit were very aggressively dismissed by their doctors, so I doubt many of those reports were ever logged. I'm glad you recovered, and thanks for the well wishes.

yonaguska 3y ago

I'm glad you're able to handily dismiss my arguments, because my lived experiences are non-serious. My formerly very active friends in their late twenties/early thirties that developed POTS after vaccination, not after contracting covid, they simply did not think things through enough to make the right conclusions about their experiences.

hedora 3y ago
It's hard to confirm they didn't contract covid or one of the other similar things that popped up during the "tripledemic" after the lockdown started to lift, especially since it sounds like a cluster of people that might have caught something strange from each other and that also report a rare side effect. FWIW, I had some issues that showed up after getting not-covid. They seem to have gone away after a few months of cardio workouts; hope your friends recover.
- yonaguska 3y ago
  All instances of POTS showed up across friends with no overlap, on different ends of the country. The several people that came down with bells palsy- also not in overlapping groups. The latter is associated with the covid shots, the former, not as much, as it's also suspected to occur after covid infection as well, though it's hard to trust the statistics. My friends that suspected the vaccine as the culprit were very aggressively dismissed by their doctors, so I doubt many of those reports were ever logged. I'm glad you recovered, and thanks for the well wishes.