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You can see other free-speech-related court cases fought by Palestine Legal. I personally don’t think the “from the river…” slogan should be outlawed, being sp

You can see other free-speech-related court cases fought by Palestine Legal. I personally don’t think the “from the river…” slogan should be outlawed, being speech, but it does indeed eliminate the country of Israel by referring to its land as “Palestine”.

tsimionescu 3y ago
The USA supports the creation of two countries in that area: Israel, with its current borders minus the colonies it has illegally established in the West Bank, and Palestine, which would include the Gaza strip and the West Bank (in its full 1947 territory, minus the illegal Israeli colonies). The country of Palestine would then stretch from the river (in the West Bank) to the sea (in Gaza). Of course, it is also sometimes used to call for the dissolution of the state of Israel. Even that is not per se antisemitic (not that I suport this - Israel has won it's right to exist). There are just as many Jewish people living outside of Israel as inside.
- kelthuzad 3y ago
  Israel has not won its "right to exist", if anything, its entire history of ethnic-cleansing, murder, apartheid and now genocide has lost them the "right to exist", not that the apartheid colony ever had such a "right" anyway. Israel will only exist as long as it's possible for the USA to protect them, the moment that support crumbles Israel is no more. Looking at the trends, it's looking extremely bleak for Israel, considering that US support is largely artificial and not organic. The support arises first and foremost from the work of the israeli lobby AIPAC which takes advantage of America's legalized bribery [1] that results in undue influence on congress. Another big factor are evangelicals, who are misguided by corrupt pastors and televangelists like John Hagee who are in a business relationship with the israeli lobby and thus have a vested interest in forcing a zionist misinterpretation[4] of the bible to artificially create support for israel. A key factor in the changing landscape of evangelical Christianity is generational differences. Younger evangelicals are often less aligned with traditional evangelical positions and are harder to misguide with misinterpretations that have no sound basis. [1] So You Want to Bribe a Politician - https://youtu.be/QZcLuT3RasA https://youtu.be/QZcLuT3RasA [2] Why evangelicals influence US foreign policy in the Middle East - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhT7oyDlBIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhT7oyDlBIk [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee [4] Eschatological Madness about Israel, James White - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gmd90XJyhA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gmd90XJyhA
  - wahnfrieden 3y ago
    It's terrible that absolute comments in one direction stay, and well cited (in thoroughness - quality of citations are just personal references in this case) ones that counter an unqualified absolute statement are routinely flagged out as bad behavior on topics like this

tsimionescu 3y ago

The USA supports the creation of two countries in that area: Israel, with its current borders minus the colonies it has illegally established in the West Bank, and Palestine, which would include the Gaza strip and the West Bank (in its full 1947 territory, minus the illegal Israeli colonies). The country of Palestine would then stretch from the river (in the West Bank) to the sea (in Gaza). Of course, it is also sometimes used to call for the dissolution of the state of Israel. Even that is not per se antisemitic (not that I suport this - Israel has won it's right to exist). There are just as many Jewish people living outside of Israel as inside.

kelthuzad 3y ago
Israel has not won its "right to exist", if anything, its entire history of ethnic-cleansing, murder, apartheid and now genocide has lost them the "right to exist", not that the apartheid colony ever had such a "right" anyway. Israel will only exist as long as it's possible for the USA to protect them, the moment that support crumbles Israel is no more. Looking at the trends, it's looking extremely bleak for Israel, considering that US support is largely artificial and not organic. The support arises first and foremost from the work of the israeli lobby AIPAC which takes advantage of America's legalized bribery [1] that results in undue influence on congress. Another big factor are evangelicals, who are misguided by corrupt pastors and televangelists like John Hagee who are in a business relationship with the israeli lobby and thus have a vested interest in forcing a zionist misinterpretation[4] of the bible to artificially create support for israel. A key factor in the changing landscape of evangelical Christianity is generational differences. Younger evangelicals are often less aligned with traditional evangelical positions and are harder to misguide with misinterpretations that have no sound basis. [1] So You Want to Bribe a Politician - https://youtu.be/QZcLuT3RasA https://youtu.be/QZcLuT3RasA [2] Why evangelicals influence US foreign policy in the Middle East - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhT7oyDlBIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhT7oyDlBIk [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee [4] Eschatological Madness about Israel, James White - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gmd90XJyhA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gmd90XJyhA
- wahnfrieden 3y ago
  It's terrible that absolute comments in one direction stay, and well cited (in thoroughness - quality of citations are just personal references in this case) ones that counter an unqualified absolute statement are routinely flagged out as bad behavior on topics like this