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The guy was specifically talking about the video's headline, which was written to be clickbait like everything else on YouTube because that's how MKBHD pays his

The guy was specifically talking about the video's headline, which was written to be clickbait like everything else on YouTube because that's how MKBHD pays his bills.

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
It's not clickbait. It is the worse product ever reviewed at that price point because it solves nothing. For now. You cannot just slap together a bunch of tech for no reason and then price it like Apple and pretend you're Apple. The fact that they received $240 million funding needs to be investigated in itself. Such terrible VCs need to be publicly humiliated.
- imp0cat 2y ago
  The headline is not clickbait in this particular case, but it still sounds very "click-baity".
  - ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
    I mean he is an Youtuber after all. He is not writing titles for Reuters.
paxys 2y ago
The video title is "the worst product I've ever reviewed" and the thumbnail is the product with its $700 price tag. What exactly is the "clickbait" here?
- n42 2y ago
  regardless of your original point, which I happen to agree with, that title is as clickbait as it gets. it is a title designed to make you click to find out what product he's talking about. pretending it's not clickbait is disingenuous. I don't even care that it is clickbait. that's the game every YouTuber is playing. but, it is unashamed, by the book, clickbait.
  - paxys 2y ago
    Do you have an issue with the fact that he didn't put "AI Pin" in the title or that he called it the worst product he has reviewed? Because the "outrage" is very clearly about the latter. Heck if anything not putting the company and product name in the title actually helps them in this case.
    - n42 2y ago
      To be clear, I have no issue with anything here, except that someone would think a title like "The worst product I've ever reviewed" is not clickbait. Clickbait does not mean bad. It does not mean I don't like it. It doesn't mean evil. It means it is bait designed to make you click. And clearly, if you look around you, it's working.
      - fastball 2y ago
        That seems like a poor definition of "clickbait" in the context of YouTube, as that definition would effectively apply to every video being put on the platform these days and as such makes the label meaningless.
        hawski 2y ago
        It would be a comment on the state of YouTube. Also Clickbait is a spectrum. On one end there are disingenuous titles (1) on the other are academic titles (0). A typical book of fiction title would be somewhere in the middle of the scale. But we do judge fiction and other artistic efforts differently. There are Channels I subscribe to, that do not use titles like those too much. You can find examples from those channels that are clickbait from my perspective, but that is a general feeling I have. I would also say that for complex stuff covered by a video you can't give a simple purely descriptive title and then my Clickbait detector allows some leeway. Just don't rely on terms, that almost automatically put a question in minds. Like: weird (weird, how?), the worst/best product (which product? - is it something I know of?).
      - ncallaway 2y ago
- blitzar 2y ago
  the worst|best|dumbest|smartest|fattest product I've ever reviewed $$$$$$$$'s in the thumbnail Youtube sad face thumbnail - youtube open mouth face thumbnail has been retired by the pro level influencers. All classic youtube algorithm optimisation for clicks tricks - aka clickbait.
wahnfrieden 2y ago
It wasn’t clickbait. The video begins and ends talking about how it’s completely bad.
miffy900 2y ago
The tweet in question I'm guessing you're referring to is this: > I find it distasteful, almost unethical, to say this when you have 18 million subscribers. > Hard to explain why, but with great reach comes great responsibility. Potentially killing someone else’s nascent project reeks of carelessness. > First, do no harm. It's pretty clear they're not referring to JUST the headline/title of the YT video.
- cromka 2y ago
  I don’t agree, I could still make an opposite statement based on those quotes.
  - miffy900 2y ago
    The YT title was 'The worst product I've ever reviewed...for now.' It doesn't mention Humane or the AI Pin, there's also no brand logo in the thumbnail. Just a pic of the device itself. If you had no foreknowledge of the video or device itself, or what he was talking about, you'd have to watch at least 1 minute into the video itself to know the company and device name. The YT video title on its own can't possibly 'kill someone's nascent project' or 'cause harm' on its own.
al_borland 2y ago
It’s the opposite of clickbait. The title saves the viewer from having to watch the video at all, as it says everything someone really needs to know in that single line. It’s a bad product. I find it silly that people are pointing at MKBHD for the downfall of a company, instead of the people who ran the company and decided to launch when the experience wasn’t good and the value proposition was poor. Releasing early to ride the AI hype train was a risk, and this time it didn’t pay off. People are also still free to try it for themselves if they were excited for the product and think MKBHD is wrong. While Marques doesn’t call the iPhone a bad product, he is very clear that he prefers Android, yet the iPhone is still outselling Android in the US, his prime market. That’s at least some proof that the market doesn’t blindly follow him and appreciates the perspective, without taking it as gospel.
- dumbo-octopus 2y ago
  I personally have never once seen evidence that he "prefers" Android in any capacity. He has voiced opinions on things Android does well, and he has done the same for iOS. Anyone who thinks he has a personal preference one way or the other is very likely projecting.
  - al_borland 2y ago
    He carries both, because he needs to stay familiar with both, and there are some things that the iPhone does better (in his opinion), like video, and of course there is iMessage. He has said countless times that his main phone, and primary number, is on whatever Android phone he is currently carrying. I’m an iPhone user, so I’m not projecting, trying say he prefers my preferred platform. Here he is talking about using 2 phones, with his main number and 75% of usage being on the Android. That seems like a preference to me. That doesn’t mean he thinks the iPhone is bad, but it’s his special purpose phone, not the ‘default for everything else’ phone. https://youtube.com/watch?v=QGbfOd_pVvc https://youtube.com/watch?v=QGbfOd_pVvc
    - dumbo-octopus 2y ago
      My work happens to require my primary computer to be a Windows machine, and there are many functions Windows provides that the Mac equivalent cannot compete with, when it comes to the work I need to do. Does that mean I "prefer" Windows? I don't think so.
commakozzi 2y ago
"Clickbait" implies deception. The title was not deceptive.

The guy was specifically talking about the video's headline, which was written to be clickbait like everything else on YouTube because that's how MKBHD pays his bills.

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago

It's not clickbait. It is the worse product ever reviewed at that price point because it solves nothing. For now. You cannot just slap together a bunch of tech for no reason and then price it like Apple and pretend you're Apple. The fact that they received $240 million funding needs to be investigated in itself. Such terrible VCs need to be publicly humiliated.

imp0cat 2y ago
The headline is not clickbait in this particular case, but it still sounds very "click-baity".
- ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
  I mean he is an Youtuber after all. He is not writing titles for Reuters.

paxys 2y ago

The video title is "the worst product I've ever reviewed" and the thumbnail is the product with its $700 price tag. What exactly is the "clickbait" here?

n42 2y ago
regardless of your original point, which I happen to agree with, that title is as clickbait as it gets. it is a title designed to make you click to find out what product he's talking about. pretending it's not clickbait is disingenuous. I don't even care that it is clickbait. that's the game every YouTuber is playing. but, it is unashamed, by the book, clickbait.
- paxys 2y ago
  Do you have an issue with the fact that he didn't put "AI Pin" in the title or that he called it the worst product he has reviewed? Because the "outrage" is very clearly about the latter. Heck if anything not putting the company and product name in the title actually helps them in this case.
  - n42 2y ago
    To be clear, I have no issue with anything here, except that someone would think a title like "The worst product I've ever reviewed" is not clickbait. Clickbait does not mean bad. It does not mean I don't like it. It doesn't mean evil. It means it is bait designed to make you click. And clearly, if you look around you, it's working.
    - fastball 2y ago
      That seems like a poor definition of "clickbait" in the context of YouTube, as that definition would effectively apply to every video being put on the platform these days and as such makes the label meaningless.
      - hawski 2y ago
        It would be a comment on the state of YouTube. Also Clickbait is a spectrum. On one end there are disingenuous titles (1) on the other are academic titles (0). A typical book of fiction title would be somewhere in the middle of the scale. But we do judge fiction and other artistic efforts differently. There are Channels I subscribe to, that do not use titles like those too much. You can find examples from those channels that are clickbait from my perspective, but that is a general feeling I have. I would also say that for complex stuff covered by a video you can't give a simple purely descriptive title and then my Clickbait detector allows some leeway. Just don't rely on terms, that almost automatically put a question in minds. Like: weird (weird, how?), the worst/best product (which product? - is it something I know of?).
    - ncallaway 2y ago
blitzar 2y ago
the worst|best|dumbest|smartest|fattest product I've ever reviewed $$$$$$$$'s in the thumbnail Youtube sad face thumbnail - youtube open mouth face thumbnail has been retired by the pro level influencers. All classic youtube algorithm optimisation for clicks tricks - aka clickbait.

wahnfrieden 2y ago

It wasn’t clickbait. The video begins and ends talking about how it’s completely bad.

miffy900 2y ago

The tweet in question I'm guessing you're referring to is this: > I find it distasteful, almost unethical, to say this when you have 18 million subscribers. > Hard to explain why, but with great reach comes great responsibility. Potentially killing someone else’s nascent project reeks of carelessness. > First, do no harm. It's pretty clear they're not referring to JUST the headline/title of the YT video.

cromka 2y ago
I don’t agree, I could still make an opposite statement based on those quotes.
- miffy900 2y ago
  The YT title was 'The worst product I've ever reviewed...for now.' It doesn't mention Humane or the AI Pin, there's also no brand logo in the thumbnail. Just a pic of the device itself. If you had no foreknowledge of the video or device itself, or what he was talking about, you'd have to watch at least 1 minute into the video itself to know the company and device name. The YT video title on its own can't possibly 'kill someone's nascent project' or 'cause harm' on its own.

al_borland 2y ago

It’s the opposite of clickbait. The title saves the viewer from having to watch the video at all, as it says everything someone really needs to know in that single line. It’s a bad product. I find it silly that people are pointing at MKBHD for the downfall of a company, instead of the people who ran the company and decided to launch when the experience wasn’t good and the value proposition was poor. Releasing early to ride the AI hype train was a risk, and this time it didn’t pay off. People are also still free to try it for themselves if they were excited for the product and think MKBHD is wrong. While Marques doesn’t call the iPhone a bad product, he is very clear that he prefers Android, yet the iPhone is still outselling Android in the US, his prime market. That’s at least some proof that the market doesn’t blindly follow him and appreciates the perspective, without taking it as gospel.

dumbo-octopus 2y ago
I personally have never once seen evidence that he "prefers" Android in any capacity. He has voiced opinions on things Android does well, and he has done the same for iOS. Anyone who thinks he has a personal preference one way or the other is very likely projecting.
- al_borland 2y ago
  He carries both, because he needs to stay familiar with both, and there are some things that the iPhone does better (in his opinion), like video, and of course there is iMessage. He has said countless times that his main phone, and primary number, is on whatever Android phone he is currently carrying. I’m an iPhone user, so I’m not projecting, trying say he prefers my preferred platform. Here he is talking about using 2 phones, with his main number and 75% of usage being on the Android. That seems like a preference to me. That doesn’t mean he thinks the iPhone is bad, but it’s his special purpose phone, not the ‘default for everything else’ phone. https://youtube.com/watch?v=QGbfOd_pVvc https://youtube.com/watch?v=QGbfOd_pVvc
  - dumbo-octopus 2y ago
    My work happens to require my primary computer to be a Windows machine, and there are many functions Windows provides that the Mac equivalent cannot compete with, when it comes to the work I need to do. Does that mean I "prefer" Windows? I don't think so.

commakozzi 2y ago

"Clickbait" implies deception. The title was not deceptive.