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This entire controversy is so stupidly overblown. MKBHD posts a fair and thorough review of a shitty product, which is exactly in line with what every other re
by paxys 3y ago
This entire controversy is so stupidly overblown.
MKBHD posts a fair and thorough review of a shitty product, which is exactly in line with what every other reviewer has said about it as well.
One guy tweets about how he wasn't fair, and how he has a responsibility to not write bad things about companies because of the size of his viewer base (wut??)
Now the entire internet feels the need to come defend MKBHD, thus amplifying the other side even more.
- throwaway5959 3y agoThing is, we should defend MKBHD. He didn’t do anything wrong. He did his job.
- paxys 3y agoDefend him from what exactly? There was literally no controversy until people started defending him from the controversy. The only person who won here is Daniel Vassallo, whose low effort post went viral because people kept sharing it to show how stupid it was, thus drawing more eyeballs to his $400 "I will teach you how to be a successful entrepreneur" course on X (because of course he has one).
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- throwaway5959 3y agoSorry.
- atonse 3y agoReally? He has a course like that? Sounds like Vassallo is selling way more Snake oil than he claims ill intentions with MKBHD.
- samrolken 3y agoAfter a while of following him, some bot on his account DMs me about some crypto or whatever stuff.
- DVassallo 3y agoSorry but this is a lie. I don’t have bots and I don’t do crypto. Think before you make public accusations.
- dinvlad 3y agoHe doesn't sell snake oil at all, what he teaches works, is down to earth and pragmatic. He also has amazing guest lectures from folks highly regarded in the community.
- philipwhiuk 3y ago> what he teaches works You sound like the guy standing next to the street hustler telling you about how he actually got paid.
- dinvlad 3y agoAnd ad hominem attacks mean you don’t have anything valid to say :-)
- tailspin2019 3y ago> thus drawing more eyeballs to his $400 "I will teach you how to be a successful entrepreneur" course on X (because of course he has one). Just a voice in support of Daniel here as this is a bit of a mischaracterisation. He’s a really nice, gentle guy, who runs a small online community called Small Bets which I would characterise as the opposite of a “I will teach you to be rich” course. (I’m a satisfied paid member). I don’t have an opinion on his tweet but both he and MKBHD are equally entitled to share their (strong) opinions on things.
- ffsm8 3y agoYeah, that really puts him in a much better light. Totally. For real. Btw, kinda on-topic: did you notice this discussion yesterday? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40051597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40051597
- dinvlad 3y agoNothing to do with this, quite the opposite.
- ffsm8 3y agoRight, a person running a group called "small bets" has no relation to people getting simps to gamble their money away. I'm sure you're right, you are not a simp after all! Btw, ever heard of the duck test? > If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
- dinvlad 3y ago> Right, a person running a group called "small bets" has no relation to people getting simps to gamble their money away. I don't see a button to reply to your comment below, but I'd suggest going to smallbets.com to actually see what this is all about, instead of random guesses about gambling. Also, calling someone a "simp" is a sign of immaturity, just so you know.
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- newman314 3y agoHere's my $0.02 MKBHD posted an IMO unnecessarily clickbaity title to his review. I watched the review and thought that he was mostly on the ball except for the once again exaggeration that it's the worst product ever (for the views). In a way, it seems that the recent scathing review for Fisker and the views generated might have gone to his head somewhat. Given that the Rabbit R1 is coming out soon (which he will likely review), I am curious to see if his reviews becomes a pattern of rage farming.
- zarzavat 3y agoAgree. The review was fine, but the optics of the title are bad because he makes $$$$ from the clickbait. Even if the title was accurate (I don’t think it’s likely to be literally accurate).
- addicted 3y agoThe title is almost certainly literally accurate. Of the products he’s reviewed (it’s the worst product he reviewed he said), how many others are even half as expensive as the Pin? And what percentage of them almost completely fail to achieve their intended purpose? I’d bet the answer is indeed none other than the Pin.
- arghwhat 3y agoOn the other hand, the video spends a significant amount of time explaining how the product is well super well designed and comes with a lot of features. It is just completely and utterly useless for its intended purpose with no redeeming qualities in use whatsoever. The title is clickbaity, but you get the same conclusion from watching the video and seeing the product in action. Other review sites seem to agree. You can argue that this indeed means that the company will sell fewer of this generation of product, which might make them unable to develop the next generation... But giving a favorable review to make people buy 700 USD paperweights in order to sponsor development would be deceit and wrong. Some ideas look good on paper and are interesting to make, but fail catastrophically when confronted with real users. Nothing new about it.
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- cmelbye 3y agoThe guy was specifically talking about the video's headline, which was written to be clickbait like everything else on YouTube because that's how MKBHD pays his bills.
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoIt's not clickbait. It is the worse product ever reviewed at that price point because it solves nothing. For now. You cannot just slap together a bunch of tech for no reason and then price it like Apple and pretend you're Apple. The fact that they received $240 million funding needs to be investigated in itself. Such terrible VCs need to be publicly humiliated.
- imp0cat 3y agoThe headline is not clickbait in this particular case, but it still sounds very "click-baity".
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoI mean he is an Youtuber after all. He is not writing titles for Reuters.
- paxys 3y agoThe video title is "the worst product I've ever reviewed" and the thumbnail is the product with its $700 price tag. What exactly is the "clickbait" here?
- n42 3y agoregardless of your original point, which I happen to agree with, that title is as clickbait as it gets. it is a title designed to make you click to find out what product he's talking about. pretending it's not clickbait is disingenuous. I don't even care that it is clickbait. that's the game every YouTuber is playing. but, it is unashamed, by the book, clickbait.
- plorg 3y agoYeah, I don't see the point of the drama except for the amount of interaction this exchange got in Elon's bot swamp. If anything it seems more like the other dude was gunning for attention by taking a ludicrous position and backfilling arguments for it.
- mrtksn 3y agoIt feels like some folks have a sense of entitlement for customers and success and for some reason they project it on companies they like. Maybe they feel like someone from the pack was attacked?
- KeplerBoy 3y agoIf you're in it for the mindless entrepreneur mindset and vc-backed openai-api wrapping bullshit, your pack definitely got attacked by MKBHD. Folks assumed that everything associated with AI will turn into gold.
- kumarm 3y agoPeople underestimate the financial gains involved (If $ is all one aspires for) in intentional bad takes like that one guy on social media. Glad you pointed it out and his crappy course.
- tailspin2019 3y agoYou could apply that exact same argument to MKBHD’s slightly clickbait title of his video.
- blitzar 3y agoIts 'influencing' they are all just grifters, always were.
- addicted 3y agoYou could. You’d just be wrong. Because the title isn’t clickbait at all. It’s accurate. If anything, most other media writers have correctly been even more harsh on it. If you wanted to give Humane a ridiculous amount of leeway you could argue it’s a good concept but in Beta form but that’s not how they’re selling it to the general consumer. They’re charging them $700 and telling them it’s a consumer ready product. By that standard it’s absolutely failed and if anything, the title could be far harsher.
- tailspin2019 3y agoYou’ve made a leap that I am somehow making a comment on the accuracy of his review. I have no idea about Humane’s product or whether MKBHD’s review is accurate. I’m simply making the point that “The worst product I’ve reviewed… For Now” is a bit clickbaity. Ie it is specifically worded in a way that encourages clicks.
- FumblingBear 3y agoI somewhat agree that it's __somewhat__ clickbaity, but the other important part of something being clickbait is "being typically deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading". [0] I'm sure there are some definitions of clickbait that don't require that, but at least colloquially with people I talk to, it's assumed that clickbait necessarily engages in deceptive behavior where the content is not aligned with the title / thumbnail. In this case, it's certainly designed to draw attention and get a viewer to click, but it's also the thesis of the video. He literally considers it to be the worst product he's ever reviewed, and thinks that they may iterate on it to improve the functionality in the future. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickbait https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickbait
- rickdeckard 3y agoI do wonder what would have happened if Humane would have launched the product as an invitation-only beta with a different pricing-scheme. The hardware is good enough to test it. Power-consumption, projector and voice-cloud-voice latency is too high. But that's probably all forgivable if it's a "public beta" with the clear statement that this is not a final mass-product... I think reviews would have been much better (for the SAME product), with a "curious how it evolves!" verdict cutting Humane some slack for walking new grounds... Overall it might have been the hubris of Humane to "end Apple" which harmed them more than anything else
- antoniojtorres 3y agoThat’s an interesting thought, I think it certainly would’ve helped if they took a more “we build it as we go if you believe in the vision” approach. Reminds me of tesla and it’s approach, though that’s a pretty polarizing example.
- paxys 3y agoHumane has raised $230 million dollars in funding. It was obvious from their rushed launch and last minute pivot to "AI" that this was a desperate attempt to cash out. A product operating in a niche category with a small but dedicated userbase is useless for a VC who is looking to 10x their initial investment. They'd much rather risk it all for explosive growth.