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Land of the free. Indeed it is.
by dunekid 2y ago
Land of the free. Indeed it is.
- malta_kano 2y agonext time lets protest at your house / business :)
- dunekid 2y agoWell, fine. If you are a member of my family, and you think that the family is in cahoots with those commit crimes against humanity, you might as well do that. If you had a bit of conscience, I hope you at least implore of doing it.
- NeverFade 2y agoIn what form of government is a vocal minority of activist workers allowed to take over their employer's place of business? Please don't say "communism" as they would be sent to the gulag or worse in every communist regime that has ever existed.
- Animats 2y agoWhen that happened in Poland in 1980, the activist workers won.[1] That's one of the places where the downfall of the USSR began. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_%28Polish_trade_union%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_%28Polish_trade_uni...
- dh2022 2y agoOh please. USSR broke to pieces because of internal problems not because some Polish workers locked themselves up in a shipyard.
- sakjur 2y agoAnimats did not claim otherwise AFAICT. The forming of a union in Poland in 1980 is something I’ve been taught was one of the earliest public signs that Kremlin was losing its grasp over the east bloc. That’s not at all incompatible with Soviet falling apart due to internal problems.
- dh2022 2y agoWell I read Animats’ comment in the context of activism producing change - not in the context of activism being a symptom of change…
- sakjur 2y agoThe Czechoslovak velvet revolution in 1989 also comes to mind.
- cad31 2y agoThese are called sit-ins or "sitdown strike", and are not particularly uncommon. They happen in many democracies around the world (not at google though).
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- gorbot 2y agoThis comment is confusing. It makes me think that you believe their endgame is actually become the owners of the office they occupied or otherwise gain something. Their goal was to make themselves be heard. Us talking about it right now means it’s working.
- swexbe 2y agoWe’re discussing about a group of google employees. Not about the issue they were protesting.
- rags2riches 2y agoThe actual acts performed in the protest may very well be the goal for some of the protesters. The stated goals are in that case only rationalizations.
- pyuser583 2y agoCommunist countries absolutely used “vocal minorities” as a way to control people. The vocal minority might be organized crime, the Red Guard, or anonymous denunciation. It wasn’t a coincidence that communist countries had massive police forces and widespread crime. They are both parts of the same function.
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- zadokshi 2y agoFreedom on full display. Employees free to break their employment contract. Employer free to fire them. Let me guess, you want power to control what people and companies can or can not do? I don’t trust you enough to put you in control of that.
- cad31 2y agoFreedom to profit from war in privacy.
- tsimionescu 2y agoYou would be right if they were fired, but they were arrested by the state. Not so free to protest.
- fleshdaddy 2y agoWell there are limits. You can’t for example protest in my living room or by breaking into the Capitol building. Trespassing can be a form of protest but it’s still illegal.
- tsimionescu 2y agoIf they had broken into the offices after violently clashing with police, or if they were ransacking the place, I would be 100% in favor of arresting them - just like the Jan 6 protesters who attacked the Capitol. Instead, as far as I've seen even from the Daily Wire, these people just walked into the offices of their company's boss (at worst breaking a lock?) and were sitting there without disturbing his papers or breaking his computers or anything violent.
- nh23423fefe 2y agoWhat point are you making? Calling yourself a protester means you can do whatever you want with someone else's property?
- underdeserver 2y ago
- anon291 2y agoYes free to own things that other people cannot appropriate..