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> the RISAA legislation expands the definition of "electronic communications service provider" (ECSR) to include data centers and commercial landlords—businesse

> the RISAA legislation expands the definition of "electronic communications service provider" (ECSR) to include data centers and commercial landlords—businesses, he says, that "merely have access to communications equipment in their physical space." According to Zwillinger, RISAA may also ensnare anyone "with access to such facilities and equipment, including delivery personnel, cleaning contractors, and utilities providers." Incredibly disappointing & massive power grab. It's absurd to think of data center providers now having to go rip computers out of racks & hand them over, whether or not that helps actually any investigation or not (like when the feds find out everything is encrypted on the systems). It's so disappointing seeing how far the ideas in the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace got, and how absurdly insanely bitterly the governments of the world are intent on making sure people cannot communicate with each other. What an incredibly & horrible pendulum swing.

matheusmoreira 3y ago
> It's so disappointing seeing how far the ideas in the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace got I'm amazed that declaration was ever written to begin with. Computers are the embodiment of subversion. They are world changing technology, the most important technology humanity has ever produced. Just think about it. You program a little math into a computer and suddenly it has the power to defeat judges, governments, militaries, three letter agencies. Imagine how pissed off these people must get while they watch their power and control eroded away by cryptography software. You write a little file sharing program and suddenly the computer starts wiping out entire industries, entire classes of economic activitiy and their associated business models. Computers make a total mockery of copyrighy laws and the feeble attempts at enforcing it in courts. Computers put the artificial in artificial scarcity. Personally I'm some kind of "computer maximalist", I say society should change completely to fit into the new computerized reality. Society is not willing to just take that lying down though, it pushes back when you try to change it. So it's kind of amazing that we still have free computers at all. I'm not sure they actually realize how powerfully subversive computers are, how much of a threat they are to established powers. They'd push for making it illegal for computers to execute code not signed by the government if they understood that. Instead we're experiencing some kind of slow politico-technological arms race. They make laws, people make software that works around the laws, they are forced to make harsher laws to maintain the same level of control, people work around that, repeat ad infinitum until the end game which is either an uncontrollable population or a totalitarian state.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

> It's so disappointing seeing how far the ideas in the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace got I'm amazed that declaration was ever written to begin with. Computers are the embodiment of subversion. They are world changing technology, the most important technology humanity has ever produced. Just think about it. You program a little math into a computer and suddenly it has the power to defeat judges, governments, militaries, three letter agencies. Imagine how pissed off these people must get while they watch their power and control eroded away by cryptography software. You write a little file sharing program and suddenly the computer starts wiping out entire industries, entire classes of economic activitiy and their associated business models. Computers make a total mockery of copyrighy laws and the feeble attempts at enforcing it in courts. Computers put the artificial in artificial scarcity. Personally I'm some kind of "computer maximalist", I say society should change completely to fit into the new computerized reality. Society is not willing to just take that lying down though, it pushes back when you try to change it. So it's kind of amazing that we still have free computers at all. I'm not sure they actually realize how powerfully subversive computers are, how much of a threat they are to established powers. They'd push for making it illegal for computers to execute code not signed by the government if they understood that. Instead we're experiencing some kind of slow politico-technological arms race. They make laws, people make software that works around the laws, they are forced to make harsher laws to maintain the same level of control, people work around that, repeat ad infinitum until the end game which is either an uncontrollable population or a totalitarian state.