> a breakdown of the civilian training requirements Which is why I specified: > most people competent with a gun Most civilians are not people competent with

> a breakdown of the civilian training requirements Which is why I specified: > most people competent with a gun Most civilians are not people competent with a gun. It is very relevant that hobby shooters can easily far outpace police in their weapon competency with just a casual amount of shooting practice (hell, most ranges give you a 2-hour block of time, so even one range day a YEAR could put you even with some of these departments). Whether some cops are also hobby shooters is irrelevant to the complete lack of reasonable training requirements at a policy level before we turn cops loose on the streets with firearms.