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Do you put the hash at the end of the dirname in the store? IIRC, Nix names things like "$unreadable_hash$pkg_name" which makes tab completion impossible in th

Do you put the hash at the end of the dirname in the store? IIRC, Nix names things like "$unreadable_hash$pkg_name" which makes tab completion impossible in the case someone wants/needs to go spelunking in that directory.

RaitoBezarius 3y ago
Tvix is compatible with Nix, thus it follows the /nix/store/$hash-$name naming scheme.
orbital-decay 3y ago
Fuzzy completion makes it trivial, although it doesn't help with the unreadable part. Spelunking in nix store dirs directly is usually unnecessary, though. You can debug/tinker with your derivations in nix shell (or, confusingly as always, nix-shell).
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
It's my understanding that the ${hash}-${name} order is actually intended to help with tab completion, but from a different direction; if you already know the first couple chars of the hash, you can quickly tab-complete it, instead of using the less-unique name. I mean, I don't think that's the order I would have picked either, but there is logic behind it.
- eviks 3y ago
  Why would you remember anything from a hash instead of the infinitely more usable name+ version (a more-than-enough-unique combo?
  - tazjin 3y ago
    If you have an actively used Nix system with a large disk, it's very likely that you have a large number of (unused) deriations with the same prefix in there. A derivation is also a lower-level thing than a package, so it's not guaranteed that you have a useful name & version in there. I just checked on my laptop and I have, for example, over 400 stdenv-linux build outputs in there.
    - eviks 3y ago
      That still doesn't explain how 400 hashes are more useful than name+version+hashes (this'd still suffer from the common fail of flat folders, should've used proper nesting, but not as much as hash-first)
      - tazjin 3y ago
        To determine how useful something is it's important to look at the usecase. My usecase for interacting directly with the store is that I want to look at some specific store path, so I already know the hash from somewhere and can autocomplete on the first characters with much higher precision than first completing drv names, and then moving on to the right hash. You seem to have some other kind of use-case. What is it?
        eviks 3y ago
        the usecase is described right there in the first comment And 2_of_name + 2_of_hash is giving you higher precision in one match as it has more info to match against the full path vs just 2_of_hash

RaitoBezarius 3y ago

Tvix is compatible with Nix, thus it follows the /nix/store/$hash-$name naming scheme.

orbital-decay 3y ago

Fuzzy completion makes it trivial, although it doesn't help with the unreadable part. Spelunking in nix store dirs directly is usually unnecessary, though. You can debug/tinker with your derivations in nix shell (or, confusingly as always, nix-shell).

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

It's my understanding that the ${hash}-${name} order is actually intended to help with tab completion, but from a different direction; if you already know the first couple chars of the hash, you can quickly tab-complete it, instead of using the less-unique name. I mean, I don't think that's the order I would have picked either, but there is logic behind it.

eviks 3y ago
Why would you remember anything from a hash instead of the infinitely more usable name+ version (a more-than-enough-unique combo?
- tazjin 3y ago
  If you have an actively used Nix system with a large disk, it's very likely that you have a large number of (unused) deriations with the same prefix in there. A derivation is also a lower-level thing than a package, so it's not guaranteed that you have a useful name & version in there. I just checked on my laptop and I have, for example, over 400 stdenv-linux build outputs in there.
  - eviks 3y ago
    That still doesn't explain how 400 hashes are more useful than name+version+hashes (this'd still suffer from the common fail of flat folders, should've used proper nesting, but not as much as hash-first)
    - tazjin 3y ago
      To determine how useful something is it's important to look at the usecase. My usecase for interacting directly with the store is that I want to look at some specific store path, so I already know the hash from somewhere and can autocomplete on the first characters with much higher precision than first completing drv names, and then moving on to the right hash. You seem to have some other kind of use-case. What is it?
      - eviks 3y ago
        the usecase is described right there in the first comment And 2_of_name + 2_of_hash is giving you higher precision in one match as it has more info to match against the full path vs just 2_of_hash