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Why is the US the only one being argued to have abandoned its ally despite being the single biggest provider of aid? Why do most of the European allies literal

Why is the US the only one being argued to have abandoned its ally despite being the single biggest provider of aid? Why do most of the European allies literally next door to Ukraine need to have their hand twisted or given additional American guarantees to provide aid to a mutual ally despite already having the nuclear umbrella and NATO's mutual defense guarantees? Are they not siding with autocratic war criminals? Don't they also believe in the "rules based world order"? As it stands the US already has its energy focused on helping their other ally slaughter children, and Trump seems just as keen to keep that going. It's clearly a more important task to the ruling class.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> Why is the US the only one being argued to have abandoned its ally despite being the single biggest provider of aid? We’re Europe’s security guarantor. And the U.S. and U.K. signed the Budapest Memorandum. While we aren’t in breach of that Memo (as Moscow is), we are sort of violating its spirit.
- floxy 3y ago
  >We’re Europe’s security guarantor. I'd love to see polling on this this question: "Is the United States Europe's security guarantor?" ...for the U.S., countries in Europe, and other countries around the world.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48744-most-americans-like-nato-say-us-should-defend-allies https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48744-most-americ... https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/02/09/nato-seen-favorably-across-member-states/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/02/09/nato-seen-favo...
dragonwriter 3y ago
> Why is the US the only one being argued to have abandoned its ally despite being the single biggest provider of aid? The US has only been accused of abandoning Ukraine since (approximately; there’s some blurriness because of some trickling out of previously-approved, unused, aid) it stopped providing aid. That’s the point of alleged abandonment.
jltsiren 3y ago
The US was the single biggest provider of aid earlier in the war. It still is, if you count only military aid. The EU has surpassed the US in overall aid. In addition to that, the combined contributions from EU member states may also exceed US aid. They certainly do if you also include other European countries.
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bamboozled 3y ago
It isn't, people think NATO and Europe are letting them down too. However, the USA is the most capable and outspoken when it comes to the ideals Ukraine is fighting to defend. Freedom, democracy, justice, are all major ideals that countless American and innocents have been killed to defend. Whole countries have been ripped apart over this, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq... This makes the abandonment of Ukraine now even more noteworthy considered they're bravely trying to defend all the things we thought the USA was about. It seems shocking, considering until we now, we considered Russia an adversary to the the west and not someone we'd be helping win.
- floxy 3y ago
  How many wars in Africa are you signing the U.S. up for?

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> Why is the US the only one being argued to have abandoned its ally despite being the single biggest provider of aid? We’re Europe’s security guarantor. And the U.S. and U.K. signed the Budapest Memorandum. While we aren’t in breach of that Memo (as Moscow is), we are sort of violating its spirit.

floxy 3y ago
>We’re Europe’s security guarantor. I'd love to see polling on this this question: "Is the United States Europe's security guarantor?" ...for the U.S., countries in Europe, and other countries around the world.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48744-most-americans-like-nato-say-us-should-defend-allies https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48744-most-americ... https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/02/09/nato-seen-favorably-across-member-states/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/02/09/nato-seen-favo...

dragonwriter 3y ago

> Why is the US the only one being argued to have abandoned its ally despite being the single biggest provider of aid? The US has only been accused of abandoning Ukraine since (approximately; there’s some blurriness because of some trickling out of previously-approved, unused, aid) it stopped providing aid. That’s the point of alleged abandonment.

jltsiren 3y ago

The US was the single biggest provider of aid earlier in the war. It still is, if you count only military aid. The EU has surpassed the US in overall aid. In addition to that, the combined contributions from EU member states may also exceed US aid. They certainly do if you also include other European countries.

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bamboozled 3y ago

It isn't, people think NATO and Europe are letting them down too. However, the USA is the most capable and outspoken when it comes to the ideals Ukraine is fighting to defend. Freedom, democracy, justice, are all major ideals that countless American and innocents have been killed to defend. Whole countries have been ripped apart over this, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq... This makes the abandonment of Ukraine now even more noteworthy considered they're bravely trying to defend all the things we thought the USA was about. It seems shocking, considering until we now, we considered Russia an adversary to the the west and not someone we'd be helping win.

floxy 3y ago
How many wars in Africa are you signing the U.S. up for?