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> I grew up listening to NPR, it was always on. Car talk with my dad on the weekends, Prarie home, etc. Note: These are not NPR shows. They're merely shows tha

> I grew up listening to NPR, it was always on. Car talk with my dad on the weekends, Prarie home, etc. Note: These are not NPR shows. They're merely shows that your (and most) local NPR affiliates purchased for broadcasting. If you think your local affiliate doesn't have enough of these types of shows, let them know! Many local affiliates have wide discretion on the programming. More details: https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178640915/npr-stations-and-public-media https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178640915/npr-stations-and-pub...

willcipriano 3y ago
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- BeetleB 3y ago
  Did the affiliate say it or just some random show said it?
- nostromo 3y ago
  The funny thing is that NPR's listenership is extremely white. National Review showed a while back that 90% of listeners are white. More recent numbers estimate it's around 80%. Believe it or not, Fox News' viewership is much more diverse than NPR's. NPR fails dramatically by the standards of diversity that they hold everyone else to. It makes sense that they now cater exclusively to self-hating white people, since that's the only market they have left after years of declines in programming quality.
  - wannacboatmovie 3y ago
    They have to cater to the group of people that would willingly spend $50 on a tote bag with their logo on it.
  - dingnuts 3y ago
    This isn't surprising and doesn't contradict the parent at all. The most obnoxiously nouveau-racist people are predominantly white, like Robin DiAngelo Like, seriously, do you think Latin people came up with the term "Latinx"? This strain of self-hating progressivism has been predominantly white for-ev-er
  - cyanydeez 3y ago
    Believe it or not, they're losing viewers because of technology and consumption patterns. Programming is still available in podcasts and elsewhere.
eurleif 3y ago
Car Talk was an NPR show.
- BeetleB 3y ago
  Nope. It was a locally produced show that was licensed to NPR.
  - wannacboatmovie 3y ago
    "Car Talk was originally a radio show that ran on National Public Radio (NPR) from 1977 until October 2012, when the Magliozzi brothers retired." Source: Wikipedia I'm laughing at everyone trying to split hairs over Car Talk in this thread. Most long-running programming on PBS were all "locally produced".
    - BeetleB 3y ago
      > Most long-running programming on PBS were all "locally produced". And I would split hairs with PBS as well :-) As I mentioned in a sibling post, NPR shows are things like "All Things Considered". Stuff like "Fresh Air" and Car Talk are not considered as NPR shows - not even by NPR themselves.
      - wannacboatmovie 3y ago
        > Stuff like "Fresh Air" and Car Talk are not considered as NPR shows - not even by NPR themselves. So when NPR themselves[1] refer to it as "NPR's Car Talk" in official copy, you're saying that is horseshit? You should write to NPR and let them know they are wrong. Also this: Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. [1] https://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/357428287/tom-magliozzi-popular-co-host-of-nprs-car-talk-dies-at-77 https://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/357428287/tom-magliozzi-popul...
    - CoastalCoder 3y ago
      This makes me nostalgic. I wish I could hear Tom weigh in on this discussion, and then hear Ray talk him down from the ledge.
CoastalCoder 3y ago
> Note: These are not NPR shows. They're merely shows that your (and most) local NPR affiliates purchased for broadcasting. That seems like a pretty fine distinction. If nothing else, NPR makes decisions about which externally produced shows to license. In the end, NPR deserves all the credit / responsibility for what it broadcasts. It reminds me of the distinction NPR makes (used to make?) between "advertising" and "underwriting". Maybe the distinction was relevant for some legal / regulatory things. But it wasn't relevant for e.g. discussions about whether or not they were subject to "advertiser" pressure on their content.
- UncleOxidant 3y ago
  > In the end, NPR deserves all the credit / responsibility for what it broadcasts. I think it's more like: In the end, your local NPR station deserves credit/responsibility for what it broadcasts. Not all of the shows they broadcast are NPR shows. There's PRI, for example. The other thing is that sometimes there are multiple NPR options that could be presented. EDIT: I checked the schedule of my local NPR station: The morning/afternoon schedule: - Morning Edition (NPR) - On Point (seems to be NPR out of WBUR) - Here and Now (also NPR out of WBUR - I actually think this one is generally pretty good) - Think Out Loud (local production of OPB - really good local interview show, the guy is an excellent interviewer, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets moved up to the national level at some point) - BBC Newshour (BBC, of course) - The World (PRI - actually a really informative program about events outside the US) - All Things Considered (NPR) - Today Explained (VOX podcast) - Marketplace (APM - informative business show) So not all are NPR. And in some cases the non-NPR shows are some of the better ones.
- BeetleB 3y ago
  > If nothing else, NPR makes decisions about which externally produced shows to license. In the end, NPR deserves all the credit / responsibility for what it broadcasts. But NPR doesn't broadcast anything - your local affiliate does. And they have complete discretion on whether to broadcast anything NPR gives them.

willcipriano 3y ago

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BeetleB 3y ago
Did the affiliate say it or just some random show said it?
nostromo 3y ago
The funny thing is that NPR's listenership is extremely white. National Review showed a while back that 90% of listeners are white. More recent numbers estimate it's around 80%. Believe it or not, Fox News' viewership is much more diverse than NPR's. NPR fails dramatically by the standards of diversity that they hold everyone else to. It makes sense that they now cater exclusively to self-hating white people, since that's the only market they have left after years of declines in programming quality.
- wannacboatmovie 3y ago
  They have to cater to the group of people that would willingly spend $50 on a tote bag with their logo on it.
- dingnuts 3y ago
  This isn't surprising and doesn't contradict the parent at all. The most obnoxiously nouveau-racist people are predominantly white, like Robin DiAngelo Like, seriously, do you think Latin people came up with the term "Latinx"? This strain of self-hating progressivism has been predominantly white for-ev-er
- cyanydeez 3y ago
  Believe it or not, they're losing viewers because of technology and consumption patterns. Programming is still available in podcasts and elsewhere.

eurleif 3y ago

Car Talk was an NPR show.

BeetleB 3y ago
Nope. It was a locally produced show that was licensed to NPR.
- wannacboatmovie 3y ago
  "Car Talk was originally a radio show that ran on National Public Radio (NPR) from 1977 until October 2012, when the Magliozzi brothers retired." Source: Wikipedia I'm laughing at everyone trying to split hairs over Car Talk in this thread. Most long-running programming on PBS were all "locally produced".
  - BeetleB 3y ago
    > Most long-running programming on PBS were all "locally produced". And I would split hairs with PBS as well :-) As I mentioned in a sibling post, NPR shows are things like "All Things Considered". Stuff like "Fresh Air" and Car Talk are not considered as NPR shows - not even by NPR themselves.
    - wannacboatmovie 3y ago
      > Stuff like "Fresh Air" and Car Talk are not considered as NPR shows - not even by NPR themselves. So when NPR themselves[1] refer to it as "NPR's Car Talk" in official copy, you're saying that is horseshit? You should write to NPR and let them know they are wrong. Also this: Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. [1] https://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/357428287/tom-magliozzi-popular-co-host-of-nprs-car-talk-dies-at-77 https://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/357428287/tom-magliozzi-popul...
  - CoastalCoder 3y ago
    This makes me nostalgic. I wish I could hear Tom weigh in on this discussion, and then hear Ray talk him down from the ledge.

CoastalCoder 3y ago

> Note: These are not NPR shows. They're merely shows that your (and most) local NPR affiliates purchased for broadcasting. That seems like a pretty fine distinction. If nothing else, NPR makes decisions about which externally produced shows to license. In the end, NPR deserves all the credit / responsibility for what it broadcasts. It reminds me of the distinction NPR makes (used to make?) between "advertising" and "underwriting". Maybe the distinction was relevant for some legal / regulatory things. But it wasn't relevant for e.g. discussions about whether or not they were subject to "advertiser" pressure on their content.

UncleOxidant 3y ago
> In the end, NPR deserves all the credit / responsibility for what it broadcasts. I think it's more like: In the end, your local NPR station deserves credit/responsibility for what it broadcasts. Not all of the shows they broadcast are NPR shows. There's PRI, for example. The other thing is that sometimes there are multiple NPR options that could be presented. EDIT: I checked the schedule of my local NPR station: The morning/afternoon schedule: - Morning Edition (NPR) - On Point (seems to be NPR out of WBUR) - Here and Now (also NPR out of WBUR - I actually think this one is generally pretty good) - Think Out Loud (local production of OPB - really good local interview show, the guy is an excellent interviewer, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets moved up to the national level at some point) - BBC Newshour (BBC, of course) - The World (PRI - actually a really informative program about events outside the US) - All Things Considered (NPR) - Today Explained (VOX podcast) - Marketplace (APM - informative business show) So not all are NPR. And in some cases the non-NPR shows are some of the better ones.
BeetleB 3y ago
> If nothing else, NPR makes decisions about which externally produced shows to license. In the end, NPR deserves all the credit / responsibility for what it broadcasts. But NPR doesn't broadcast anything - your local affiliate does. And they have complete discretion on whether to broadcast anything NPR gives them.