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The hyperscalers weren't selling Terraform though, Hashicorp was losing to Terragrunt, Spacelift et al, who had decent to good offerings. I'd say Elasticsearch

The hyperscalers weren't selling Terraform though, Hashicorp was losing to Terragrunt, Spacelift et al, who had decent to good offerings. I'd say Elasticsearch is still the comparison to make here for a product that clouds just resold, then again, Redis the company didn't build Redis the software and their latest marketing smells more of VC hawkery than any reasonable pitch

alex_lav 2y ago
> Hashicorp was losing to Terragrunt, Spacelift et al, who had decent to good offerings. Would love some data in support of this statement. Not saying you're wrong necessarily, just it feels like a perception vs. reality comment potentially.
- pbronez 2y ago
  Easiest to check out the list of companies sponsoring OpenTofu https://opentofu.org/supporters/ https://opentofu.org/supporters/ For more details, you could listen to: https://oxide.computer/podcasts/oxide-and-friends/1471446 https://oxide.computer/podcasts/oxide-and-friends/1471446
  - alex_lav 2y ago
    A list of companies sponsoring OpenTofu confirms that TF was "losing" to tools like TerraGrunt and SpaceLift? Sorry I don't follow.
- Comma2976 2y ago
  Don't have any data I must say, just a series of discussions here and elsewhere over the years, voicing either appreciation for the platforms above or displeasure with the logistics/price of TFcloud, e.g. with one I remember https://old.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/eaq8bh/terraform_emterprise_changing_pricing_model/ https://old.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/eaq8bh/terraform_em... The vast majority of projects that I've come across at work just had the tf CLI wrapped in a CI/CD pipeline + some bucket, but the managed competitors seemed to come up more often (compared to other tools/platforms) when people wanted to use/were using something as a service. Perhaps it's really just a perception thing, I never checked their financials edit: I think I went off-track from the point. The point was that the ones selling managed versions were not the hyperscalers, but people building wrappers and similar around it. The other commenter with the list of fork-backers illustrates that nicely.

alex_lav 2y ago

> Hashicorp was losing to Terragrunt, Spacelift et al, who had decent to good offerings. Would love some data in support of this statement. Not saying you're wrong necessarily, just it feels like a perception vs. reality comment potentially.

pbronez 2y ago
Easiest to check out the list of companies sponsoring OpenTofu https://opentofu.org/supporters/ https://opentofu.org/supporters/ For more details, you could listen to: https://oxide.computer/podcasts/oxide-and-friends/1471446 https://oxide.computer/podcasts/oxide-and-friends/1471446
- alex_lav 2y ago
  A list of companies sponsoring OpenTofu confirms that TF was "losing" to tools like TerraGrunt and SpaceLift? Sorry I don't follow.
Comma2976 2y ago
Don't have any data I must say, just a series of discussions here and elsewhere over the years, voicing either appreciation for the platforms above or displeasure with the logistics/price of TFcloud, e.g. with one I remember https://old.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/eaq8bh/terraform_emterprise_changing_pricing_model/ https://old.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/eaq8bh/terraform_em... The vast majority of projects that I've come across at work just had the tf CLI wrapped in a CI/CD pipeline + some bucket, but the managed competitors seemed to come up more often (compared to other tools/platforms) when people wanted to use/were using something as a service. Perhaps it's really just a perception thing, I never checked their financials edit: I think I went off-track from the point. The point was that the ones selling managed versions were not the hyperscalers, but people building wrappers and similar around it. The other commenter with the list of fork-backers illustrates that nicely.